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People Don’t Have The Benefit Of The Value Of Their Home Going Up To Try To Get Out

A report from Gulf Coast News. “After years of record-breaking price growth, Florida’s once-sizzling housing market is beginning to lose heat. Realtor Sue Christiano, with Engle Volkers Realty, has witnessed the shift firsthand. ‘I had one property that was on the market for 10 months and it didn’t sell,’ Christiano said. ‘We got offers, but they were all low-ball.’ A major factor contributing to the slowdown is ballooning inventory. Lee County currently has more than 17,000 homes for sale. Collier County has over 9,000 listings, and Charlotte County adds more than 5,800 to the mix. Despite the drop in demand and home values, Christiano doesn’t believe this is a repeat of the 2006–2007 housing bubble. ‘There is no bubble,’ she said. ‘I think the key word is correction.'”

Mansion Global. “A bill that could ease Florida’s looming condo crisis has been awaiting Gov. Ron DeSantis’s signature for more than a month. But to condo owners hoping the law, if passed, will turn around the state’s sagging market, experts say: Don’t hold your breath. These special assessments can range anywhere from $25,000 to $400,000—more than many of these units are worth—according to Craig Studnicky, CEO of brokerage ISG World. ‘The new law promised to ease up the financing of the special assessments,’ Studnicky said. ‘But in my opinion it’s not going to matter much.’ In his estimation, only one in five of the 20,000 condo units are on solid financial ground, what realtors are calling ‘white list’ buildings. Real estate attorney Joe Hernandez of Miami-based Bilzin Sumberg, an expert in condo law, agrees that there are thousands of buildings that are ‘financially infeasible,’ as in their value doesn’t justify the cost to repair them, even if one could come up with the funds. ‘If an association is really distressed, in other words, if there’s a significant percentage of the unit owners that cannot pay, it’s very unlikely they’re going to get a loan because the whole basis for repayment of the loan is that the owners can pay their assessments,’ said Hernandez.”

Honolulu Civil Beat in Hawaii. “In the wake of the 2023 Maui wildfires, our island’s housing crisis has reached a critical point. In response, county officials propose phasing out approximately 7,000 short-term rentals by 2026. The proposed STR phase-out could deliver a serious blow to Maui’s economy. Many of these units were never built to support long-term residential use. They’re typically small, one-bedroom or studio condos, with limited storage, outdoor space, and parking. Additionally, high carrying costs — including mortgage payments, HOA dues, maintenance, and taxes — can easily top $6,000, far beyond what most local families can afford in rent. In short, these properties are unlikely to reenter the market in a way that substantially benefits local residents.”

The Seattle Times in Washington. “The latest sign of the Seattle area’s sluggish housing market? A relative glut of homes sat on the market in May, typically the height of Seattle-area homebuying season. Demand for town homes and condos is especially weak — ‘dead in the water at the moment,’ said Seattle Compass agent Ryan Palardy. ‘Ever since the tariffs went into effect, and everything that’s been downstream of that, they just don’t feel inclined to take a risk on a house that’s going to cost them twice as much as they’re paying in rent at a nice spot right now.’ The median King County condo sold for nearly $570,000 in May, down 4% from a year earlier.”

The Los Angeles Times in California. “Los Angeles County fire victims have filed lawsuits against three large home insurers alleging they were systematically underinsured, leaving them without enough money to replace or rebuild their homes after the Jan. 7 blazes. ‘These families paid their premiums, trusted their insurers, and did everything right,’ said attorney Gregory L. Bentley in a statement. ‘But when disaster struck, they learned their coverage was little more than an illusion. These companies promised peace of mind, but instead left their members stranded, homeless, and hopeless.’ The lead plaintiffs in the USAA lawsuit, Ethan and Marijana Alexander, had a 2,135-square-foot, four-bedroom, three-bathroom near-custom home on Bienveneda Avenue in Pacific Palisades that they bought in 2018, according to the lawsuit. The home had $584,000 in dwelling coverage and a 25% home protection endorsement of $146,000, the lawsuit states. Even with the additional coverage, the complaint alleges the couple don’t have adequate insurance to rebuild, with USAA calculating the cost at $342 per square foot and the couple receiving estimates at more than $850-to-$1,000 per square foot, the lawsuit states.”

Philadelphia Inquirer in Pennsylvania. “A Philadelphia-area real estate broker and a local title agency are facing a lawsuit by a lender, who alleges that they helped a developer client inflate the value of his properties so he could obtain a multimillion-dollar loan that ultimately defaulted. The lender, California-based Genesis Capital LLC, alleges that Surety Abstract and Keller Williams Philadelphia conspired with developer Travis Robert-Ritter in ‘a lengthy and extensive loan fraud scheme.’ Genesis gave Robert-Ritter millions of dollars in loans, then lost nearly $10 million when Robert-Ritter’s real estate development business collapsed, the lender’s complaint says. The lawsuit said Robert-Ritter’s business “purchased cheap single-family homes in Philadelphia with the help of Keller Williams and Surety Abstract and rehabilitated them into, among other things, three-unit rentals. To get loans to finance that business, the lawsuit alleged, Robert-Ritter got help from Surety Abstract and Keller Williams to make it appear as if several properties, which he bought for $28,000 to $70,000 each, sold a short time later for around $350,000 per home.”

“Robert-Ritter turned to Keller Williams to make sure the ‘fake sales’ would be listed in public real estate databases, Genesis’ complaint alleged. Using a list of ‘fraudulent sales’ provided by Robert-Ritter in 2022, the lawsuit alleges, an appraiser for Genesis valued the developer’s 39 properties at more than $13 million. In reality, Genesis alleged, Robert-Ritter bought the properties at an average price of about $66,000 per home. Genesis lent him $9.6 million based on the appraisal, the complaint said. Robert-Ritter stopped making payments to Genesis in July 2023 and defaulted on the loans, the complaint said, and the 39 properties ultimately sold for less than $2 million in February 2024.”

Bisnow New York. “Shorenstein Properties’ increasing difficulties with one of its New York City office towers could end up driving losses for bondholders who bought debt on the building that had been considered ultrasafe just a few years ago. The top-rated class of the CMBS loan backed by the family firm’s 1407 Broadway, a 43-story, 1.1M SF property, was downgraded by Fitch Ratings on Wednesday. The credit ratings agency warned that the property’s declining value could drive a big loss on the mortgage. Shorenstein acquired the Class-A tower in 2015, securing a $350M CMBS loan from Barclays in 2019 after the building was valued at $510M. The securitized debt was split into six classes, and Fitch gave the $187M Class-A certificates a AAA rating — higher than even U.S. Treasury bonds. The tower is now valued at just $120M following a new appraisal. Shorenstein and the loan’s special servicer, Torchlight Loan Services, have been in workout discussions even after the previous special servicer, Mount Street, filed a preforeclosure suit against the landlord last spring. But while the negotiations have been ongoing, they haven’t been trending in the right direction, per Fitch, which could hit the holders of the Class-A bonds. ‘Full recovery is unlikely,’ the ratings agency wrote in its downgrade assessment.”

CBC News in Canada. “Had things gone according to plan, Joe Racanelli and his wife would have long been settled in their new fifth floor condo in Burnaby and enjoying beautiful views of the North Shore mountains. Instead, the retired couple and former painting business owners can only look at the big hole in the ground on Hastings Street that’s now up for sale and wonder when they’ll get their presale deposit of $170,000 back, after the Siena at the Heights failed to get off the ground. ‘[The developer] said there were labour disputes with the original contractor,’ Racanelli said. ‘They extended the outside date to September 16, 2026. We kept waiting on that because we really wanted it to succeed. But now it’s dead in the water.’ In addition there are nine builders’ liens against the property amounting to $2.48 million. Fifty-nine ‘other creditors’ are owed a cumulative $1.64 million from the failed project. ‘It’s been frustrating and worrying,’ he said. ‘What if it takes another two or three years for this to be sold? I mean, the property is definitely not going ahead. We should get our money back.'”

London Free Press in Canada. “The number of power-of-sale listings in London is creeping up, local industry watchers say, just as a new report shows the number of homeowners falling behind on their mortgage payments rose by more than 30 per cent in the past year. Rebecca Oakes, vice-president of advanced analytics at Equifax Canad said the main factor behind the increase in default in payments is the higher interest rate at which many homeowners are renewing their mortgages. That’s especially true for those who bought their properties at the peak of the market during the COVID-19 years, when interest rates were at 0.25 per cent. The average resale price of a London-area home in May was $656,432 – down from a 2022 peak of about $822,000.”

“That’s left some homeowners ‘upside down on their equity,’ Kathy Amess, a real estate agent at Blue Forest Realty Inc. said, though current power-of-sale numbers still don’t match the 2008 financial crisis. ‘There’s always people that have financial problems or those who overextend themselves on major purchases,’ she added. ‘The difference between the last few years . . . is that the property values were increasing, so if someone was in a bad financial position and couldn’t afford their payment, they could put their house on the market and sell it, pay off their mortgage, pay off whatever else they needed to, and move on. Now, in a flat market, people don’t have the benefit of the value of their home going up to try to get out of those things.'”

“Austin Titus, a real estate broker with Century 21 First Canadian Corp., said he’s also noticed an uptick in power-of-sale listings. He pointed to one especially vulnerable group: those who signed mortgages with so-called B lenders as a way to break into the market and were hoping to build some equity and get a better deal with a more traditional lender at the time of renewal. ‘The reason why people go typically with B lenders is often they’re self-employed, have bad credit, or they’re not able to get great income documents but have the cash,’ Titus said.”

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  1. ‘These families paid their premiums, trusted their insurers, and did everything right…But when disaster struck, they learned their coverage was little more than an illusion. These companies promised peace of mind, but instead left their members stranded, homeless, and hopeless’

    It was still way cheaper than renting Ethan and Marijana.

    1. “The twin lawsuits, filed Wednesday in Los Angeles County Superior Court, allege that USAA, a Texas-based insurer that serves the military community, and two insurers affiliated with AAA for years underestimated the replacement cost of the homes, lulling the policyholders into buying inadequate coverage.”

      On the other hand, the State of California limited policy price increases while federal easy lending led to out of control property value inflation.

      The lead photo in that article shows just how close the surf is to these homeowner parcels. The California Coastal Commission will never allow those parcels to be rebuilt, IMHO.

      1. I’m guessing that the photo was taken near La Costa Beach. There was a single row of houses between Route 1 and the water’s edge that was destroyed in the fire. There are a lot of such strips of homes on the beach like that — Tom Petty used to own one — but La Costa is the only one that burned down.

        The street view of Google maps shows how narrow the strip of land was, which is probably why a replacement would cost $1000/sq ft (not even including land) to build. There must be earthquake protection, tide protection, probably sound dampening from the street… If I lived there I would probably have gotten extra insurance. They are disaster magnets.

      2. USAA is what is called an ‘affinity scam.’ They make you think you are part of a special organization but after paying tens of thousands of dollars over the years you will find out that they are nothing but a bunch of thieves when they deny your serious damage claim. They don’t just lowball you they wont even give you a few bucks to clean up the mess. However, they make it clear that they are happy to give your money away to any and all DEI and BLM initiatives. USAA is rotten to the core.

    2. so weird. cuz every year when I get my insurance renewal it shows exactly what is covered and what the total amount they will pay out is. And every year, the agent calls/writes and says do you want more or less? of course more coverage costs more and these people didn’t want to pay. Right there in black and white what they were going to get.

      If lawsuits like this win (and they might, god forbid anyone take responsibility for their choices) you’ll see even more insurers exit the market.

  2. ‘I had one property that was on the market for 10 months and it didn’t sell,’ Christiano said. ‘We got offers, but they were all low-ball.’

    The stupid, it burns. Those “low-ball” offers are the new market value, Sue, who better not be helping herself to free office coffee since she’s not a closer.

  3. ‘in 2019 after the building was valued at $510M. The securitized debt was split into six classes, and Fitch gave the $187M Class-A certificates a AAA rating — higher than even U.S. Treasury bonds. The tower is now valued at just $120M following a new appraisal’

    Who knew Fitch could be so wrong?

      1. The rating agency lady wearing the dark glasses (like for blind people) is the biggest subtle slam without saying a word.

    1. “…10% of LA’s population is comprised of illegals…”

      I recall reading several years ago that Los Angeles County alone was home to over 1.5M illegals!

      1. 1.5M

        Who have never paid a penny into Social Security or Medicare. Wanna bet their advocates will demand they be paid benefits when they reach retirement age?

        1. I keep hearing the opposite — that they pay into Medicare and Social Security but will never collect. But I bet family members will want to mooch benefits.

          And that brings up another good point. This mass migration is relatively recent, and it was generally young people migrating. What’s going to happen in 20-30 years when they’re all 65 and can no longer bring in income from the chicken processing or the HD parking lot? Will they get free nursing home care?

          1. I keep hearing the opposite — that they pay into Medicare and Social Security but will never collect

            You need an SS number to pay in. They get an ITIN to pay income tax, but not SS or Medicare.

            What’s going to happen in 20-30 years when they’re all 65

            Like I said, their advocates will demand they get it for free.

    2. it’s way more than 10%

      and riots like this show even the dumber real americans exactly why all these illegals have to go.

    3. It’s very hard to find news that doesn’t portray the protesters as heroes, but then you see government vehicles covered with spray paint. At least the cops are dishing out tear gas like candy. Karen Bass is the worlds finest Karen.

    4. If 27% of the entire state is foreign born as per the official estimates, I think your 10% number is way too low for LA.

    5. In the videos of all the protestors rioting and pushing against ICE, it appears that there are not very many hispanics and no blacks; most appear as white and a lot of women.

  4. Despite the drop in demand and home values, Christiano doesn’t believe this is a repeat of the 2006–2007 housing bubble. ‘There is no bubble,’ she said. ‘I think the key word is correction.’”

    Yer a lion, Sue. The NAR – an industry of dissemblers – must continue to deny the existence of a bursting housing bubble because to acknowledge otherwise would bring transactions to a screeching halt as would-be buyers realize the housing market has far more downside risk than upside potential. Regret to inform you, Lyin’ Sue, but the data tells its own story, and only the Stoopids are falling for your BS.

  5. Real estate attorney Joe Hernandez of Miami-based Bilzin Sumberg, an expert in condo law, agrees that there are thousands of buildings that are ‘financially infeasible,’ as in their value doesn’t justify the cost to repair them, even if one could come up with the funds.

    Using my Nostradamus-like powers of prognostication, I foresee billions of dollars in Yellen Bux “value” taking flight and departing for debauched currency heaven. How does he do it, mere mortals ask in awe & wonder.

  6. Genesis gave Robert-Ritter millions of dollars in loans, then lost nearly $10 million when Robert-Ritter’s real estate development business collapsed, the lender’s complaint says.

    Gosh, Genesis, where were yer risk managers in all of this? Sounds like a case of loose lending, although Fauxahontus assures me this is un-possible after 2008.

    1. layers and layers of experts, risk analysis, appraisers, etc

      obviously they didn’t do one bit of due diligence and just collected their fees.

  7. ‘If an association is really distressed, in other words, if there’s a significant percentage of the unit owners that cannot pay, it’s very unlikely they’re going to get a loan because the whole basis for repayment of the loan is that the owners can pay their assessments,’ said Hernandez.”

    Wut? I thought banks were philanthropic organizations. Where’s the compassion, the empathy?

  8. In response, county officials propose phasing out approximately 7,000 short-term rentals by 2026.

    Die, speculator scum.

  9. “Shorenstein Properties’ increasing difficulties with one of its New York City office towers could end up driving losses for bondholders who bought debt on the building that had been considered ultrasafe just a few years ago.

    Gosh, I fear that true price discovery could cause “investors” to rethink their assumptions about the wisdom of investing in CRE in doom loop urban centers. This in turn could accelerate the loss of Yellen Bux “value” and erode the tax base. This is my Gravely Concerned face.

    1. There’s still another three years of CRE office space defaults in the pipeline according to the vulture funds.

  10. ‘What if it takes another two or three years for this to be sold? I mean, the property is definitely not going ahead. We should get our money back.’”

    Color yer money gone, Joe.

  11. The average resale price of a London-area home in May was $656,432 – down from a 2022 peak of about $822,000.”

    Watching the scamdemic-era FOMO lemmings get schlonged bigly is schadenfreude at its most sublime. Stupid SHOULD hurt.

  12. Now, in a flat market, people don’t have the benefit of the value of their home going up to try to get out of those things.’”

    The market isn’t flat, Lyin’ Kathy. It’s cratering.

  13. He pointed to one especially vulnerable group: those who signed mortgages with so-called B lenders as a way to break into the market and were hoping to build some equity and get a better deal with a more traditional lender at the time of renewal.

    Said group is about to vulnered, bigly. Squeal like piggies, FBs!

  14. “Federal agents conducted a series of immigration sweeps across Los Angeles on Friday, prompting anger and resistance from onlookers and immigrant rights groups that have braced for this type of action for months.

    Confrontations between what appeared to be U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement officers and people in the streets of downtown L.A. could be seen in video aired on local television and shared on social media.

    At times, uniformed agents or officers could be seen physically moving people who appeared to be blocking the officers and their vehicles.”

    https://laist.com/news/federal-agents-immigration-raids-across-la

    New York Post article on this same story has comments disabled.

    Murdoch owned globalist scum media is controlled opposition.

    1. “Several Trump administration officials fired back at Los Angeles Mayor Karen Bass Friday after she pledged to oppose federal efforts to nab illegal immigrants — as cops in her city had to use flash bangs to disperse the violent mob of protesters who descended on the arrest sites.

      “We will not stand for this,” Bass said in a statement released after federal immigration authorities arrested 44 people in raids across Los Angeles.

      “I am deeply angered by what has taken place,” the Democrat mayor fumed, noting that her office “is in close coordination with immigrant rights community organizations.”

      https://nypost.com/2025/06/07/us-news/trump-admin-officials-blast-la-mayor-karen-bass-response-to-ice-raids-as-cops-clash-with-violent-protesters/

      No comments, because globalists gonna globe.

      1. “We will not stand for this,” Bass said in a statement released after federal immigration authorities arrested 44 people in raids across Los Angeles.

        IIRC, LA has a billion+ budget deficit and needs to cut spending fast. I’m not sure ‘her honor the mayor” can do anything other that stamp her little feet.

      2. 44 people???? in Los Angeles?

        There must be 44 illegals at EVERY home depot in LA alone
        come on, rookie numbers. gotta pump those numbers up.

  15. The Trump-Musk fight is getting serious , though both are acting like schoolyard bullies……Trump will prevail soon, but will the fall-out cost him next` year’s mid-term elections ? and the economy ?

    1. Elon Musk is absolutely correct in saying the new spending bill is an abomination. It should surprise no one that the worthless, compromised, controlled-opposition Establishment GOP cravenly went along with this insane increase in the national debt.

      1. Something like 70% of the national budget is Medicare, Medicaid, Security, interest on existing debt, and I think military. You could fire every federal employee and tax every billionaire of all of their wealth tomorrow and still not balance the budget. No, I think the only thing Trump can do is force the takers (including illegal aliens) off the welfare rolls in some way, and hope that Vance can keep things together long enough for about half the Baby Boomers to die. We’re not going to balance the budget until Boomers stop taking Social Security and Medicare.

        1. There’s a clip going around today of J.D. Vance saying that Rubio estimates that 88 cents of every dollar goes to middle men. This actually means that 88 percent of the entire budget is going to middle men. Which also means that if you could pay the end users directly you could cut 88% of federal spending and no services would be affected. While this is a simplified take on it, I’m pretty sure it’s fairly close. This is the problem with fiat currency, it is way too easy to debase it and piss it all away.

        2. Something like 70% of the national budget is Medicare, Medicaid, Security, interest on existing debt, and I think military.
          They are gonna have to do some serious cutting of benefits/handouts. No one will want to do that because they won’t get elected if they do. So, they will kick the can down the road until a FL condo moment occurs, and they/we are forced to cut bennies/handouts.
          When will this occur? No clue. I have been concerned about the deficit since Bush II was President and nothing bad has happened yet.

          1. “They are gonna have to do some serious cutting of benefits/handouts.”

            The doctors in my area are already howling about talk of cuts to Medicaid funding. White manatees and brown illegals are 2/3 of our medical patients, the last 1/3 has employer paid health insurance. None of our health care providers are, “Blue Cross Preferred Providers,” so our co-pays and especially lab work are costly.

      2. Why is anybody surprised about the pork and 5 trillion lifting of the debt ceiling for the big beautiful bill? Both parties have extreme culpability in the mess we’re in. Like Japan, we’ll just spend until it breaks.

    2. The government needs to stop printing more money.

      The Unelected Occupant handed 47 a government running World War II level deficits, that needs to end.

        1. Exactly, it’s fun being Santa Claus. Giving out makes people happy…..taking away hurts. I’m glad to see more people talking about it now.

  16. New York Times — Hope After Trump (6/7/2025):

    “I’ve been pondering that lately, partly because several of my friends have been so traumatized by Trump that they are wondering whether to give up on America and move to Canada to rebuild their lives there. I’ve tried to reassure them that this is not 1938 Germany.

    They shrug and note that 1935 Germany wasn’t 1938 Germany, either — but that’s what it became.”

    Remember when 2020 America became 2022 America, and Democrat Party wanted to seize custody of people’s children for not getting injected with deadly mRNA poison?

    “I think the United States can recover from Trump at home. I’m less confident that the United States can fix the Trumpian mess internationally.

    Will Canadians trust the United States again anytime in the next two decades? Can NATO recover from the doubts Trump has seeded? Will the dollar-based global financial architecture remain strong? Will we be able to restore the international rules-based order, however hypocritical it sometimes was? Will our allies trust and rely on the American nuclear umbrella? Can we again knit together Pacific partners to deter Chinese aggression? Can we revive global health surveillance and fight Ebola where it erupts? Can we build a robust global governance system in time to keep artificial intelligence safe?

    I’m skeptical. I fear the upshot is increased risk of war, of nuclear proliferation, of pandemics. Instead of protecting America, Trump may have made our world more dangerous, perhaps for decades to come — and that will not be easily reversed.”

    https://archive.vn/R1jXy

    Increased risk of war? Democrat Party gave $200 billion to a cokehead dictator who cancelled elections, and their ideological allies in Europestan want the war to never end.

    Pandemics? Is that a joke? CCP Flu was the darkest, most authoritarian period in this country’s history, all predicated on LIES.

    1. They shrug and note that 1935 Germany wasn’t 1938 Germany, either — but that’s what it became.”

      TDS is Murica’s #1 untreated mental health issue.

  17. Are we watching a replay of the Florida Land Boom and Bust of the 1920s, a century later?

    Try not to get stucco.

    1. Trouble in Florida’s real estate paradise
      The Sunshine State has a grim warning for America’s homebuyers
      James Rodriguez
      Jun 4, 2025, 1:03 AM PT

      Zach Janik had all the makings of a Florida lifer. Born and raised in West Palm Beach, he spent most of his adult years in St. Augustine, a small beach town on the state’s northeast coast. In 2018, just shy of 30, he purchased a tidy three-bedroom house for $195,000. Life was good.

      A few years into the COVID-19 pandemic, though, he no longer recognized the place he had long called home. The area around St. Augustine was bursting with new arrivals and vast expanses of cookie-cutter homes to meet the growing demand for housing. All those new residents clogged the roads, forcing Janik, who worked in sales, to spend long hours sitting in traffic to visit clients. Even if he wanted to move to another place in Florida, he couldn’t afford it — real estate prices had climbed so much that even a humble starter home like his was most likely out of reach.

      Such tales of trouble in paradise are common these days. An undisputed winner of the pandemic relocation boom, the Sunshine State lured millions of movers with its siren song of beaches, balmy weather, and absence of a state income tax. Now it’s nursing a hangover. Residents across the state are experiencing an affordability crisis, hurricane-fueled insurance nightmares, and eye-watering property tax bills. Net migration to Florida has plummeted from the heady days of 2022. Owners of aging condos can’t find willing buyers. Home prices just dropped by their biggest percentage in more than a decade, with economists and analysts projecting a prolonged slide in property values.

      https://www.businessinsider.com/florida-home-price-drops-insurance-real-estate-trend-sales-market-2025-6

      1. Home prices just dropped by their biggest percentage in more than a decade, with economists and analysts projecting a prolonged slide in property values.
        I for one, hope that the “experts and economists” get this one right, but, I think it’s fair to say they are years late to the party, and are only stating the obvious..

    2. The US housing market now has 500K more sellers than buyers — the most ever recorded, says Redfin. And that means some have to accept ‘the writing on the wall’ as far as home prices go
      The dynamic in the real estate market is shifting.
      Michael P. Farrell/Albany Times Union via Getty Images
      Victoria Vesovski
      Updated Jun 7, 2025

      The tables are turning in the U.S. housing market, and this time, buyers are calling the shots.

      There are an estimated 1.9 million homes for sale across the country, but only about 1.5 million active homebuyers. That leaves a gap of nearly 500,000 — the largest on record, according to Redfin.

      “The balance of power in the U.S. housing market has shifted toward buyers, but a lot of sellers have yet to see or accept the writing on the wall,” said Redfin Senior Economist Asad Khan. “Many are still holding out hope that their home is the exception and will fetch top dollar.”

      https://moneywise.com/real-estate/the-us-housing-market-now-has-500k-more-sellers-than-buyers

  18. Washington Post — Don’t say you weren’t warned what Trump was going to do (6/6/2025):

    “I urged voters, regardless of who headed the Democratic ticket, to concentrate on defeating Trump and regaining Democratic control of the House and preventing a GOP takeover in the Senate. “Can you imagine,” I asked, “a Republican House doing anything to rein Trump in?”

    I take no pleasure in recalling those thoughts. In fact, they are painful, because it’s all coming to pass.

    So now we have a country driven by the same invidious ideas Trump stoked during his presidential campaign. Namely: that migrants of color who have fled to this country in search of a better life ought to be treated harshly because their kind doesn’t belong here; that policies and programs in government, corporate and education sectors that foster diversity and inclusion are inherently evil and ought to be destroyed root, branch, and stem; that people with different sexual orientations, racial identities or cultural perspectives deserve resentment for confronting the country with those infuriating facts; that America’s underserved are, in fact, undeserving, and government at all levels should be condemned for giving them too much damn attention; that dictatorial rival Russia, invader of Ukraine, should be treated with far more respect and friendship than our longtime democratic allies; and that Trump, as sovereign, should be allowed to do anything he wants, no matter how destructive, vindictive or senseless.”

    https://archive.vn/Yjz9A

    Translation of that last paragraph: vote for an open borders welfare state, mutilating children, stoking anti-American resentment, and endless war.

    1. Translation of that last paragraph: vote for an open borders welfare state, mutilating children, stoking anti-American resentment, and endless war.

      Make America Canada Again!

  19. Democrats eyeing a presidential bid scramble to un-woke themselves (6/7/2025):

    “Searching for a path out of the political wilderness, potential 2028 candidates, especially those hailing from blue states, are attempting to ratchet back a leftward lurch on social issues some in the party say cost them the November election.

    Each of these candidates are, either deliberately or tacitly, countering a perceived weakness in their own political record or party writ large—Emmanuel, for example, has called the Democratic Party “weak and woke”; Sen. Elissa Slotkin (D-Mich.) has said the party needs more “alpha energy”; others like Newsom are perhaps acknowledging a more socially liberal bent in the past.

    On diversity, equity, and inclusion, some in the party are also sending a signal they’re no longer kowtowing to their left flank. Former Transportation Secretary Pete Buttigieg removed his pronouns from his social media bio months ago, and questioned how the party has communicated about it.

    Adam Frisch, the former congressional candidate and director of electoral programs at Welcome PAC, said his party is “out of touch culturally with a lot of people.”

    “I think a lot of people are realizing, whether you’re running for the House, the Senate, or the presidential, we better start getting on track with what I call the pro-normal party coalition,” Frisch said. “You need to focus on normal stuff, and normal stuff is economic opportunity and prosperity, not necessarily micro-social issues.”

    https://www.politico.com/news/2025/06/07/great-unawokening-2028-presidential-candidates-00393376

    Democrat Party can’t escape from their track record, you will NEVER be perceived as “normal” because you’re a party of perverts and freaks.

    1. Democrat Party can’t escape from their track record, you will NEVER be perceived as “normal” because you’re a party of perverts and freaks.

      Will the Dems return to primaries or will the DNC just select the 2028 candidate, ignoring voters?

    2. …”your a party of perverts and freaks.”

      How can the party of perverts and freaks better market their policies that don’t benefit most US Citizens . Basic policy positions are:

      Invasion of US Borders
      Transgenger assult on minors
      Commie medical care.
      Inflation nation
      Big Pharmacy profits over health.
      Violation of first amendment, and censorship
      Transferring power to UN and WHO
      Rigged economic systems.
      Prep Act violations to constitutional protections under the pretense of National Security or global emergencies.
      DEI inflitrated with it violating constitutional protections.
      Tax payer funds looted to fund NGO’s and treasonous programs, including illegal welfare.
      Party of vaccine mandates and “safe and effective ” fraud
      Party of cover up of death and injury by a fake expiermental vaccine.
      Party of corruption of Judicial system
      Party of rigged election in 2020
      Party of attack on US citizens saying they are terrorists or enemy of State.
      Party of escalation of World Wars.
      Party of no regulation on AI and robots.
      Party of division , racism and tear down of family unit.
      Party of Trust The Science.
      Party of destroying female spots by male transgenders
      Party of defunding police and rise of crime rate.
      Party of fake feminism and extension of abortion of full term babies
      Party of fake Biden President who could not perform duties because of mental and physical inability, along with evidence of bribes and treason from Biden
      Much more
      So, what are they going to do, find ways to better fake their policies , or say them in a different way?

    3. The internet is forever. 47’s most effective campaign ad was built on some little thing that Kamala approved five years ago. She tried to flip flop and nobody believed her.

    1. A slab on grade foundation in Florida? Anyway, I agree, it’s only worth the parcel value minus the teardown cost.

  20. the couple receiving estimates at more than $850-to-$1,000 per square foot, the lawsuit states.”

    I’m not a builder but is that really what it costs to build a house now ?? Not buy the land just build the house assuming utilities are already there somewhere on the property

    1. It is not the cost – it is the price they can demand and get in this overvalued, highly pretentious land of milk and honey.

    2. Whatever happened to manufactured homes? Is it because it’s next to impossible to meet codes? And I’m not talking about trailers.

  21. Crash Carolinas, crash hard!!!!! A holes keep moving here! I sit at a red light and it’s tags from everywhere. Mostly Ny, fl. and now texas….everywhere. 10:30 in the morning looks like rush hour did 5 years ago. I hate it!

    1. Texicans are starting to flee at a rapid pace. Their state is being over run with invaders. Open borders have many consequences.

  22. Denver proposes sweeping personnel changes to deal with 2026 deficit

    The executive director of Denver’s Office of Human Resources, Kathy Nesbitt, said Thursday the city’s projected $200 million deficit in 2026 would likely mean “hundreds” of city workers will be laid off, necessitating dramatic changes in some city personnel rules.

    In an interview, Nesbitt was asked if it looked like hundreds of city workers would likely be laid off next year. She responded, “I think it would be… Fair to say”.

    Nesbitt has also unveiled proposed changes to a city personnel rule that provided job protection and seniority privileges for long-term city workers. Career Service Rule 14 provided job protection for workers based on their years of service, and allowed them to move to other city positions if their position was cut. Nesbitt’s proposed changes — which are supported by Mayor Mike Johnston — would do away with those protections and make it easier to lay off longer-term city workers.

    “I will tell you,” said Nesbitt, “I wouldn’t be looking at this right now but for the budget deficit we are facing for 2026.”

    “It does feel like a betrayal,” said one veteran city worker, who asked their identity be concealed for fear of reprisals.

    “I think that it is a huge disservice to people who have dedicated their careers to the city. This is dismantling not only the seniority system but the right to be reinstated if you are laid off,” said the city worker.

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/denver-proposes-sweeping-personnel-changes-to-deal-with-2026-deficit-like-betrayal-says-one-city-worker/ar-AA1GbBxL

  23. Industry Minister Joly signals action on steel dumping into Canada coming

    Industry Minister Mélanie Joly says a crackdown on the dumping of cheap foreign steel into Canada is coming – a move that will help cushion the blow for the country’s big three steel producers that have been hit with U.S. President Donald Trump’s 50-per-cent tariffs.

    Algoma Steel Group Inc. chief executive Michael Garcia has argued on multiple occasions that mills from China, South Korea, Malaysia, India, Vietnam, the Middle East and Turkey regularly dump steel into Canada and make it nearly impossible for the company to compete in its home market. In meetings with federal politicians over the past few days, he’s pleaded for Canada to immediately place tariffs on all of these countries.

    But not everyone in the Canadian steel industry is in favour of rolling out new tariffs on the rest of the world as a strategy to counter the Trump tariffs.

    “I’m fine with countering the U.S. with duties. I mean, we’ve got to do something, but they’re trying to slip in a tariff on the whole world,” said Jim Ritchie, the co-founder and owner of Vancouver-based steel distribution company Cascadia Metals Ltd. “That is not elbows up. That is sucking up and that is 51st state behaviour.”

    https://www.theglobeandmail.com/business/article-industry-minister-joly-indicates-crackdown-on-steel-dumping-into/

    1. said Jim Ritchie, the co-founder and owner of Vancouver-based steel distribution company Cascadia Metals Ltd

      Notice that his firm doesn’t make steel, he just resells cheap imported steel. He knows his ox will get gored.

  24. Federal authorities arrest dozens for immigration violations across Los Angeles

    Federal immigration authorities arrested 44 people Friday across Los Angeles, prompting clashes outside at least one location as law enforcement threw flash bangs to try to disperse a crowd that had gathered to protest the detentions.

    Immigration and Customs Enforcement officers and agents executed search warrants at three locations, said Yasmeen Pitts O’Keefe, a spokesperson for Homeland Security Investigations. But immigration advocates said they were aware of arrests at seven locations, including two Home Depots, a warehouse in the fashion district and a doughnut shop, said Angelica Salas, executive director for the Coalition of Humane Immigrant Rights, or CHIRLA.

    In the fashion district, agents served a search warrant at a business after they and a judge found there was probable cause the employer was using fictitious documents for some of its workers, U.S. Attorney’s Office spokesperson Ciaran McEvoy confirmed.

    In Los Angeles, Mayor Karen Bass said the activity was meant to “sow terror.”

    Dozens of protesters gathered Friday evening outside a federal detention center in Los Angeles where they believed those arrested had been taken, chanting “set them free, let them stay!”

    Katia Garcia, 18, left school when she learned her father, 37-year-old Marco Garcia, may have been targeted.

    Katia Garcia, a U.S. citizen, said her father is undocumented and has been in the U.S. for 20 years. “We never thought this would happen to us,” she told the Los Angeles Times.

    https://abc30.com/post/multiple-people-detained-ice-homeland-security-agents-conduct-2-separate-investigations-la/16679441/

    1. Katia Garcia, a U.S. citizen, said her father is undocumented and has been in the U.S. for 20 years. “We never thought this would happen to us,” she told the Los Angeles Times.

      They all thought they got away with it.

  25. 22-year-old Sarasota honor student detained by ICE, facing deportation

    VENICE, Fla. — More than 50,000 people are now in immigration detention centers around the country; a number that now includes an honor student from Sarasota County.

    Maria “Lulu” Martinez was brought from Mexico to Florida as a child and is now facing a new life in her home country. Her family tells 10 Tampa Bay they are worried for her safety if she is sent back.

    “She’s part of this community and she’s very responsible,” Martinez’s mother, Lourdes, said through an interpreter, adding they were able to speak briefly Friday morning. “She’s very strong, and she told me to stay calm, not to worry too much, and she’s just processing everything that’s happening to her.”

    She showed us her daughter’s honor roll certificates from high school and says the associate’s diploma from the State College of Florida proves she deserves to stay with her family. But six months after her graduation, Lulu’s family says she’s at a Texas detention facility.

    Two weeks ago, she was pulled over for making an illegal U-turn. Local police discovered she was driving without a license and shared her undocumented status with ICE.

    “I know that we are here undocumented, or what some people would say illegal,” Lourdes said. “But my daughter doesn’t deserve what’s happening to her. She doesn’t deserve to be detained.”

    “We’re sorry that this young woman needs to be deported, but she does, and that’s on her parents for coming here illegally in 2015,” Rod Thomson with the Republican Party of Sarasota County said. “Taking everything that America and Florida has to offer but not respecting our laws for entrance.”

    https://www.wtsp.com/article/news/local/sarasotacounty/sarasota-student-detained-ice-deportation-undocumented/67-077ec66f-9196-48c6-83b1-627423af37bf

    1. “I know that we are here undocumented, or what some people would say illegal,”

      Some people? IIRC, you ae here illegally, without authorization or any sort of visa.

      They all thought there would never be consequences.

      1. Let me rephrase it they thought if they kept their noses clean became good neighbors, their kids got great grades. never committed any crimes, got jobs, that would overrule them being “illegals”

        1. There is the other side of the coin, how they game the system. For instance, to get SNAP/EBT they “divorce”. Oh noes! Baby mama can’t afford to feed the anchor babies, so she gets food stamps. Meanwhile with the money she doesn’t have to spend on groceries she buys a shiny minivan.

    2. ‘Two weeks ago, she was pulled over for making an illegal U-turn. Local police discovered she was driving without a license and shared her undocumented status with ICE’

      22 years old and she doesn’t have a license. Go over to her shanty and get the mom and sister too.

      1. 22 years old and she doesn’t have a license

        They expect to be exempt from all laws.

        I shared an anecdote some time ago about an illegal Honduran family that was moving from North Carolina to Arizona. They crashed, no one was wearing seatbelts and one of their kids was ejected from the car and died. The parents were not charged with any crime, even though they were unlicensed, uninsured and not wearing seatbelts. The accident occurred in Tennessee, and some local pro illegal charity had a fund raiser, replaced their wrecked car and paid the boy’s burial costs. They left on their merry way, minus one kid.

      2. Exactly. Of course the news doesn’t mention the fact that she 99.999% chance has no insurance either. Or that she probably stole her car from the rest of us through various government payouts she shouldn’t have gotten. It’s all so tiresome. GTFO.

    3. There was a post on Next Door yesterday warning that ICE would be in the Oxnard, CA area today. Before it was taken down, of the six comments four were pro ICE and two were anti ICE. My favorite comment reminded the poster that what he was doing was against Federal law.

    4. Local police discovered she was driving without a license and shared her undocumented status with ICE.

      Lemme guess: no insurance either.

    5. Honor roll certificates, college degrees, they’re family, they’re well-behaved, they’re community leaders, etc. They’re trying to “make up” for their illegal status. It’s the sort of negotiation that is so often seen in the second and third world. Looks like 47 is done with all that, because he knows that it’s the camel’s nose in the tent.

      As another example:
      I remember that, at one of the Oval Office EO signings, 47 made some remark about “well if the employers know they are good workers, and put them on a list, maybe we can find a way to expedite them coming back to work legally.”

      When he said that, I could just imagine the glint in the eyes of the SJW advocates if/when they heard that. It really would have been an opening for a negotiation, with this argument: “Oh, but if they’re such good workers, why do they have to go home only to come back again? We could just get a recommdation from their employer and they could stay here without going there and back again. It would be so efficient…”

      Luckily 47 shut it down right away in the Oval Office, by saying “they have to go home first.” Mr. Art of the Deal knew what would happen if he allowed aliens to stay with a recommendation. Libs would work the system within days: workarounds, name games for the 50,000 housecleaners named Maria Garcia, fake employers — or autopen signatures — who vouch for tens of thousands of “employees,” and copy template employer recommendations to sell on the street corner. You can’t give these beeyotches an inch.

      1. why do they have to go home only to come back again?

        Because that would be amnesty. Grant amnesty and the caravans will restart.

  26. Broadview protesters demand release of Chicago mother detained by ICE during routine check-in

    Several white ICE vans carrying detainees pulled out of the Broadview Immigration Processing Center Friday afternoon. What is not known is where they are going and if Gladis Yolanda Chavez Pineda is in one. The longtime Chicago resident was one of several people detained by ICE this week during a routine check-in in the South Loop.

    “We have attended check-ins with her before. We have entered the office before. We didn’t even get a chance to give her a hug. They took her back there. They wouldn’t let her back out,” said Nadia Singh, with Legal Aid.

    It took two days for Chavez Pineda’s attorneys to locate her. ICE took her to the Broadview processing center, where she and other detainees were forced to sleep on the floor because the facility is not supposed to be an overnight facility.

    “We were not allowed to give her a hug. We had to stand at least 10 feet back. She was in handcuffs. She wanted to give her appreciation. When she started speaking about her daughter, she did start crying,” Singh said.

    Chavez Pineda came to the United States 10 years ago to give her daughter a better life. The 47-year-old was in the lengthy process of applying for asylum.

    She is a member and activist for the organization Organized Communities Against Deportations, known as OCAD. The group and Illinois Coalition for Refugee Rights protested, demanding Chavez Pineda’s release Friday.

    Chavez Pineda does have an order of removal against her. However, she is in the process of appealing it. Late Thursday night, the 7th Circuit Court of Appeals issued a stay of deportation. But, her Chicago alderwoman and lawyers fear ICE may not comply.

    “There is no due process, and everybody deserves due process under the Constitution. So, we’re just watching how this happened in front of our eyes,” 37th Ward Ald. Rossana Rodriguez-Sanchez said.

    https://abc7chicago.com/post/broadview-protest-demands-release-chicago-mother-detained-ice-during-south-loop-routine-check/16680128/

    1. ‘She is a member and activist for the organization Organized Communities Against Deportations, known as OCAD’

      That’s pretty funny if you think about it.

      1. They all thought they were here to stay.

        ICE going after people like this is working. There is no way to know what the exact numbers are, but the fear of losing all their assets is making a lot of long term illegals, many who own real estate) think about bugging out and taking whatever they can with them,

    2. Chavez Pineda does have an order of removal against her.

      Oh oh, Spaghettios!

      They all have a deportation orders, which they thought they could ignore.

    3. “There is no due process, and everybody deserves due process under the Constitution.

      The Constitution only applies to American citizens.

      1. Due process? She already has a deportation order, which no doubt wound its way through the court system. Now she wants to challenge it, probably hoping to stall her deportation until the Dems retake the reins.

    4. No due process? She’s had 10 years of due process, and she’s enjoyed 9 years of enforcement discretion.

      Looks like the court system has just been delaying and “dismissing” these court cases forever.

      Could this be why the immigration court system is so backlogged? Instead of issuing one deportion order, and then denying one appeal, they keep the alien coming back for a routine check-in year after year. Those routine hearings take court time away from a new case.

      Let’s see what Tom and Kristi do when they get their big beautiful bucks from Unka Donald. Will they hire more immigration judges to just overrule everything clear the backlog quickly?

    1. Market Commentary
      Jobs Report Catches Market Off Guard, Drives Interest Rate Expectations
      Some takeaways from the first day of trading after some better than expected May jobs data.
      James “Rev Shark” DePorreJun 6, 2025 4:32 PM EDT

      Although the May jobs report showed that hiring was trending lower and that employers were cautious, the numbers were better than expected, with the unemployment rate steady at 4.2%. Once again, market players were out of position for good news, and that helped to spark another day of upbeat action.

      The S&P 500 gained 1%, but the Russell 2000 (IWM) small-cap index was the big winner with a gain of 1.6%, which drove almost three-to-one positive breadth.

      News that Treasury Secretary Bessent and his team will be meeting with Chinese negotiators on Monday in London added to the positive mood. The concerns that tariffs will lead to economic disaster are still gaining little traction.

      The stronger-than-expected jobs numbers were not so friendly to the bond market. Interest rates jumped with the 20+ Year Treasury Bond Fund wiping out two days of gains.

      Much to the ire of President Trump, the better-than-expected jobs numbers are giving the Fed additional time to wait and see what the impact of tariffs will be further down the road. Trump wants a rate cut now, but this is exactly the sort of data that the Fed wants to see as it suggests an economic soft landing while inflation continues to trend lower. Currently, the market is betting on two rate cuts starting in the fall.

      https://pro.thestreet.com/market-commentary/jobs-report-catches-market-off-guard-drives-interest-rate-expectations

    2. Mortgage Rates Jump Back Toward 7% After Jobs Report
      By: Matthew Graham
      Fri, Jun 6 2025, 3:13 PM

      Mortgage rates have enjoyed a nice run since May 21st, with the MND Index (average top tier 30yr fixed scenarios) falling from a recent peak of 7.08% to this week’s low of 6.87%. As recently as yesterday afternoon, rates were still much closer to those lows at 6.89%.

      One day can make a big difference and today turned out to be that day. We knew there was a risk of volatility due to the release of the big jobs report this morning. Unfortunately for rates, the news was less dire than markets were prepared for.

      Specifically, traders of the bonds that influence interest rates were moving into a defensive position after this week’s previous economic reports foreshadowed some extra weakness in today’s jobs report. In this case, the defensive position would equate to “buying more bonds” which, in turn, pushes rates lower.

      In other words, they’d taken a lead-off toward lower rates based on the suspicion that the data might come out a bit worse than forecast. As it happened, however, the data was right in line with forecasts. With that, the proverbial runner was quick to return to base with the rate index heading back up to 6.97%.

      https://www.mortgagenewsdaily.com/markets/mortgage-rates-06062025

      1. How about if we agree the 30-year mortgage rate is stuck at 7%+/- and stop fantasizing that 2021 rates are soon to return?

        1. “…falling from a recent peak of 7.08% to this week’s low of 6.87%…”

          That’s what I’m saying…7%+/-

        2. The rates would have to go so low to make a difference in the downward momentum. Remember last time around ‘09 they got the 30yr down to the low 4’s and it didn’t do a bit of good.

          1. Remember last time around ‘09 they got the 30yr down to the low 4’s and it didn’t do a bit of good.
            IIRC that was one year refis went crazy. Not as crazy as in 2003, but still a very active year for mortgages, but NOT purchases. So the mortgage loan officers had a real good year.

    1. Something similar happened to the Foothills Mall in Fort Collins. It was mostly bulldozed and converted into one of those “outdoor malls”. All the big anchor stores are gone.

    2. Crews began tearing down the former Sears, Sears Auto Center and adjacent parking garage …
      $130 million and $150 million,
      “Transform Green Acres into a dynamic destination …a diverse mix of uses — enhancing the shopping experience, strengthening community connections,

      In other words, they’re going to spend $130 million to transform a Sears into a yet another mix-use development where people are supposedly going to spend money.

      Money, with what jobs? They should have renovated the Sears store into a factory to onshore some critical supply — how about some N-95 masks and IV bags? Turn the Sears Auto shop into a specialty small-batch auto parts factory. I’m sure the existing stores will happily absorb the extra business.

      1. They should have renovated the Sears store into a factory to onshore some critical supply

        Factory space doesn’t lease for a lot, plus who is gonna set up a factory on Long Island, which is no doubt regulated to death? All the new factories will pop up in flyover, where everything costs less. And cost matters. Even my little burg is too expensive for factories.

        The mention of the Sears Autocenter brought back some memories. It was a place to get minor work done on your car: tires, shocks, tune ups, not to mention it was where to get a Die Hard battery (those are now sold at Advance Auto Parts). You could drop off your car, then pick up some shirts or something in the mall, maybe grab a bite to eat at the food court or if you were a big spender at one of the restaurants at the mall.

        1. “Die Hard battery (those are now sold at Advance Auto Parts)”

          Good batteries but not the same quality as the ones Sears sold. The Diehard name was sold in 2019 and it is now used on completely different batteries.

  27. ‘I had one property that was on the market for 10 months and it didn’t sell…We got offers, but they were all low-ball’…‘There is no bubble,’ she said. ‘I think the key word is correction’

    Yer doing the right thing Sue, don’t startle the herd.

  28. ‘agrees that there are thousands of buildings that are ‘financially infeasible,’ as in their value doesn’t justify the cost to repair them, even if one could come up with the funds. ‘If an association is really distressed, in other words, if there’s a significant percentage of the unit owners that cannot pay, it’s very unlikely they’re going to get a loan because the whole basis for repayment of the loan is that the owners can pay their assessments’

    The lending was sound at the time Joe.

  29. ‘Many of these units were never built to support long-term residential use. They’re typically small, one-bedroom or studio condos, with limited storage, outdoor space, and parking. Additionally, high carrying costs — including mortgage payments, HOA dues, maintenance, and taxes — can easily top $6,000, far beyond what most local families can afford in rent’

    Just like downtown Toronto.

  30. ‘Demand for town homes and condos is especially weak — ‘dead in the water at the moment’…‘Ever since the tariffs went into effect, and everything that’s been downstream of that, they just don’t feel inclined to take a risk on a house that’s going to cost them twice as much as they’re paying in rent at a nice spot right now’

    Yer blowing it Ryan right from the start. It’s always way cheaper than renting. I shouldn’t have to tell you that.

  31. ‘an appraiser for Genesis valued the developer’s 39 properties at more than $13 million. In reality, Genesis alleged, Robert-Ritter bought the properties at an average price of about $66,000 per home. Genesis lent him $9.6 million based on the appraisal, the complaint said. Robert-Ritter stopped making payments to Genesis in July 2023 and defaulted on the loans, the complaint said, and the 39 properties ultimately sold for less than $2 million in February 2024’

    Senator running deer heap angry Travis!

  32. ‘enjoying beautiful views of the North Shore mountains. Instead, the retired couple and former painting business owners can only look at the big hole in the ground on Hastings Street that’s now up for sale and wonder when they’ll get their presale deposit of $170,000 back, after the Siena at the Heights failed to get off the ground. ‘[The developer] said there were labour disputes with the original contractor,’ Racanelli said. ‘They extended the outside date to September 16, 2026. We kept waiting on that because we really wanted it to succeed. But now it’s dead in the water.’ In addition there are nine builders’ liens against the property amounting to $2.48 million. Fifty-nine ‘other creditors’ are owed a cumulative $1.64 million from the failed project. ‘It’s been frustrating and worrying,’ he said. ‘What if it takes another two or three years for this to be sold? I mean, the property is definitely not going ahead. We should get our money back’

    Bargaining <- Joe you are here.

  33. ‘‘The reason why people go typically with B lenders is often they’re self-employed, have bad credit, or they’re not able to get great income documents but have the cash’

    The lending was sound at the time Travis, I assure you.

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