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Sellers Know That Things Have Changed, But They Are Also Looking Back With One Eye

A report from WTXL in Florida. “The housing market in Tallahassee is moving toward a more balanced market, according to housing experts, as the city sees more housing construction. ‘Well, we’ve got more competition. If you’ve got more listings to choose from — things used to fly off the shelves in like one week because we didn’t have a lot to choose from. But nationwide, we’re seeing a surge in listings and then not an increase in buyers,’ Hettie Spooner said. ‘We’re seeing also where listings are staying on the market longer. We’re seeing more price reductions. Things are on the market longer and so it’s giving the buyer the leverage to go in and say, ‘Hey, I’m not going to offer you full price and maybe I need closing cost assistance.'”

The News Press in Florida. “In March, the number of recorded sales in Lee County dropped by 11.4% since March 2024 — from 2,203 to 1,951. Looking only at single-family homes, the $389,262 median selling price in Lee County was down 2.7% in March from $400,000 the month prior. Since March 2024, the sales price of single-family homes was down 5.1% from a median of $409,950. Condominiums and townhomes decreased by 9.4% in sales price during March to a median of $290,000 from $320,000 in February. Compared to March 2024, the sales price of condominiums and townhomes was down 14.5% from $339,000.”

Community Impact. “During a June 17 Greater Houston Builders Association luncheon, Zonda Chief Economist Ali Wolf said Houston’s housing market is stabilizing after a period of volatility, but today’s ‘average’ conditions still require incentives to drive sales. In Houston, she said, most builders still describe demand as ‘slower than expected.’ Zonda’s Market Ranking shows Houston and other Texas metros, including Austin and Dallas, as ‘average’ performing. ‘We’re in a market today that lacks any sense of urgency,’ Wolf said. Wolf said public builders like Lennar and D.R. Horton dominate Houston’s top-selling projects and are driving price adjustments. ‘They will typically lead in pricing coming down,’ Wolf said. ‘This is the year for margin compression. Builders are not being as aggressive on new spec starts … especially if every home sale is coming with some kind of incentive or a price cut.'”

The Denver Post. “Despite soaring inventory, at its highest level statewide in Colorado since 2019, sales remain stagnant as buyers grapple with high interest rates. Colorado recorded 31,268 active listings in May, up 27% from May 2024. Cooper Thayer, a broker associate with the Thayer Group in Castle Rock, said higher costs keep homes on the market longer, causing a ‘pile-up’ effect. ‘The result is a whopping 4.2 months’ supply of inventory, setting a near-15-year record high,’ Thayer said. Kelly Moye of Compass compared the market to running on a treadmill: ‘Active but not going anywhere.’ Julia Purrington Paluck, an Evergreen realtor, said the mountain metro market is experiencing its highest inventory in a decade. ‘In the foothills, we usually see peak inventory in August or September. But, as of the end of May 2025, we’re experiencing the highest level of active listings in over a decade – about 36% more homes on the market compared to May 2024, and more than double what we saw in May 2023. High supply and low demand indicate this won’t last,’ she said. ‘The laws of supply and demand suggest we’re headed for some price adjustments.'”

The Weekly Voice. “In 2024, Canadians accounted for 13 percent of all foreign residential property purchases in the United States, topping the National Association of Realtors’ rankings. But by early 2025, the tone had shifted. Realtor Miles Zimbaluk, who runs real estate services for Canadians in Arizona, said inflammatory rhetoric about annexation and rising economic uncertainty have turned many north-of-the-border buyers away. ‘People have absolutely been turned off,’ he said, noting that over 700 Canadian-owned homes were listed for sale in Maricopa County in Q1 2025, compared to just 100 during the same period in 2024.”

“The decline in Canadian demand is now particularly noticeable in areas like Palm Beach, Florida. ‘There’s definitely a drop,’ said Jeff Lichtenstein of Echo Fine Properties, attributing it to both uncertainty and a fading sense of welcome. Some Canadians have even reported experiencing hostility. Zimbaluk said there have been instances of notes left on cars with Canadian plates, adding to the growing discomfort. ‘It’s not about safety, it’s about the atmosphere,’ he said. ‘There’s just so much uncertainty. Everyone is trying to find their own way.'”

Times of San Diego in California. “On June 16, the San Diego City Council voted 5-4 to amend the controversial Accessory Dwelling Unit Bonus Program. The program attempts to create more affordable housing without over-development, but residents we heard from via email and social media were not sure the benefits outweighed the disadvantages. Bill Zent of Pacific Beach agrees that more needs to be done to regulate ADUs. ‘I have read the amendments and I feel they leave the door open on excessive units on a property,’ he said. ‘There should only be one unit allowed. It should be single-story with parking provided on the parcel. No two stories are allowed, as it impacts backyard privacy. No one would have a problem with a single ADU. However, these build-outs change the neighborhood and can affect a home’s value.'”

“‘They are building six ADUs next door,’ noted Judi Curry of Sunset Cliffs. She asked, ‘Where are those people going to park? What will happen to the water shortage? What will the noise be like? That’s in addition to making the one-story house a two-story house with a sundeck on top. It was allowed to happen. How? Why? Who benefits?'”

The Globe and Mail in Canada. “20 Claudview St., King City, Ont. Asking price: $1,399,000 (March, 2025). Selling price: $1,300,000 (May, 2025). Previous selling prices: $1,335,000 (October, 2023); $1,325,000 (December, 2022); $968,000 (December, 2017); $534,504 (December, 2013). This three-bedroom townhouse about 50 kilometres north of downtown Toronto was posted for sale with an asking price a shade under $1.4-million less than a year and a half after the owner paid $1,335,000 for it. They fully expected buyers might push for an even lower price. Working with one of the home’s few visitors, they agreed to a sale price of $1.3-million – $35,000 less than what they had paid in 2023. Real estate agent Ira Jelinek said the outcome had to be seen in the context of current market conditions. ‘Real estate in that area does really well in a good market and holds its own in not such great markets,’ said Mr. Jelinek. ‘Like if someone bought a condo in 2023, its [value] might be down 20 to 40 per cent. Here, they’re down maybe 2 per cent.'”

Durham Post in Canada. “Overbidding for homes in Durham Region continued to take a downward turn in May, compared to the previous month, as more Durham neighbourhoods saw homes selling for under asking. In May, 26 per cent of the neighbourhoods in Durham Region were in overbidding territory, down from 30 per cent in April, while 74 per cent moved into underbidding territory, up from 60 per cent. There were no neighbourhoods where homes were selling at asking, compared to 10 per cent the previous month. Two of the top-5 most underbid neighbourhoods in May are in Oshawa, while the remaining three are spread across the region. Windsfield, Oshawa is the most underbid, with a median sold price of $1,049,900 and a median underbid amount of -$31,500.”

The Cabo Sun. “For the global elite, the southern tip of the Baja California peninsula has become a byword for sun-drenched luxury. But behind the gates of multi-million-dollar villas and gleaming new condominium towers, a starkly different reality is unfolding. Los Cabos is in the grip of an unprecedented real estate boom, cementing its status as Mexico’s hottest market while creating an increasingly desperate and unaffordable housing crisis for the local community that serves its thriving tourism sector. According to Karim Oviedo Ramírez, the national president of the Mexican Association of Professional Realtors, new projects with entry points between $350,000 and $500,000 USD (7 to 10 million pesos) are now the norm, placing Los Cabos at the apex of Mexico’s property value chain. ‘For our association, Los Cabos is a strategic municipality because it has many investments,’ Oviedo explained. ‘It is an important place to invest, generating good returns.'”

“The situation provides a sharp contrast to Tulum, another of Mexico’s famed destinations. For years, Tulum’s market was narrowly focused on a trendy, ‘eco-chic’ luxury niche. That over-concentration created a bubble, and with an oversupply of similar high-end properties and infrastructure failing to keep pace, its market has cooled considerably.”

The Times in the UK. “Vicki Couchman urgently needs to sell her 90-year-old mother’s three-bedroom bungalow, in the tranquil village of Whitwell, on the south of the Isle of Wight, so she can afford to pay for her care. During the Covid-era ‘race for space,’ when city movers flocked there, it would have been snapped up in a matter of days. However, now the sleepy housing market on the island — where taxes have decimated demand for properties — means she fears she will have to accept a low offer if, indeed, she manages to sell it at all. Vicki thinks her mother’s bungalow, which is 15 minutes’ drive from the beach and is near the seaside resort of Ventnor, was worth £350,000 during Covid but, thanks to the sluggish nature of the market today, she has chosen to put it on the market for £280,000 — and their need to sell is pressing after her mother’s health declined suddenly in the autumn.”

“Gwynedd has seen average sale prices tumble by 18 per cent, while in Havant, Hampshire, they are down 17 per cent. James Toogood, a director in Savills’ country house department, says sellers need to be more realistic and realise we’re not in 2021 any more. ‘I think that in their heart of hearts they know that things have changed, but they are also looking back with one eye. It is tough to take.’ In Wales, Carol Peett, the managing director of West Wales Property Finders, who was mobbed with buyers in 2020 and 2021, suspects the buyers who were throwing money at coastal homes were dimly aware they were overpaying in 2021, but their burning desire for a lifestyle change quelled any doubts. ‘They just wanted to escape,’ she says. ‘They were doing it for lifestyle, not for profit.'”

From CNBC. “China’s real estate sector has grappled with a deepening downturn for years. Now a shrinking population is casting another shadow over the stagnant property market. A mother of a 7-year-old boy in Beijing told CNBC that the price of her apartment had fallen by about 20% from over two years ago when she bought it. It cost her roughly twice the average price for an apartment in the city, so that her son could attend a good elementary school.”

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  1. ‘We’re seeing also where listings are staying on the market longer. We’re seeing more price reductions. Things are on the market longer and so it’s giving the buyer the leverage to go in and say, ‘Hey, I’m not going to offer you full price and maybe I need closing cost assistance’

    The article doesn’t say who Hettie is, probably a use shack salesperson.

  2. ‘Overbidding for homes in Durham Region continued to take a downward turn in May…There were no neighbourhoods where homes were selling at asking, compared to 10 per cent the previous month’

    Durham is at least three igloo clusters.

  3. ‘We’re in a market today that lacks any sense of urgency,’ Wolf said. Wolf said public builders like Lennar and D.R. Horton dominate Houston’s top-selling projects and are driving price adjustments. ‘They will typically lead in pricing coming down’

    They will fook their previous buyers without a care Ali.

  4. Looking only at single-family homes, the $389,262 median selling price in Lee County was down 2.7% in March from $400,000 the month prior.

    Shacks shedding $11,000 in Yellen Bux value in a single month? Meanwhile, my rent for a nice SFH is only $2K.

  5. ‘Some Canadians have even reported experiencing hostility. Zimbaluk said there have been instances of notes left on cars with Canadian plates, adding to the growing discomfort’

    We’re sick of yer sh$t Miles.

    1. there have been instances of notes left on cars with Canadian plates

      Go to Mexico then. Just be warned that any notes you receive will be ransom notes.

    1. “More violent protests against ICE removal operations in California.”

      Renault: “I’m shocked, shocked to find that gambling is going on in here!” [a croupier hands Renault a pile of money]

      Croupier: “Your winnings, sir.”

      Renault: “Oh, thank you very much.”

      Casablanca (1942)

    2. “The video shows people throwing rocks and bottles at vehicles as they passed by.

      Federal agents say protesters rammed their vehicles with other vehicles and also slashed tires on the agents’ vehicles.”

      Insurrection.

    3. I read somewhere that the protest-industrial complex is planning protests monthly. Yeah, whatever. If it’s peaceful it will become old hat and no one will pay attention. The rest of it is job security for Kash and Dan.

    1. Perhaps those were a decoy, as B2’s have just bombed Iran’s nuke sites.

      I think avoiding travel in the next few months might be a good idea.

  6. Purrington Paluxy,,,,” The laws of supply and demand suggest we’re headed for some price adjustments.’”

    Have we found a realtor that is not a liar?

    1. All realtors are liars, without exception. Consider the weasel word “adjustment” when an honest person, i.e. a non-realtor, would note that prices are cratering.

    1. “The harsh reality is that far too many Americans are still struggling to make ends meet, and absent an influx of dependable, good-paying jobs, the economic opportunity gap will widen.”

      “The first panacea for a mismanaged nation is inflation of the currency; the second is war. Both bring a temporary prosperity; both bring a permanent ruin. But both are the refuge of political and economic opportunists.” —Ernest Hemingway

  7. This is who Muh Resistance is protesting to keep in the country.

    KDVR — Denver ICE agents claim that an immigration advocacy group prevented the arrest of a ‘criminal alien’ (6/20/2025):

    “ICE Denver said that Friday morning, ICE agents and FBI Denver were attempting to arrest Jose Reyes Leon-Deras, who they claim is a “criminal alien” from El Salvador convicted of and wanted for the rape of a child in Italy.

    The agency said that during their surveillance of Leon-Deras, members of the immigration advocacy group known as Colorado Rapid Response arrived at the scene and alerted the man to the presence of law enforcement.

    The alert they said, allowed him to escape being arrested.”

    https://kdvr.com/news/local/denver-ice-agents-claim-that-an-immigration-advocacy-group-prevented-the-arrest-of-a-criminal-alien/

    1. Related post:

      “Six more Portland Antifa militants have been federally charged for various violent crimes related to the ongoing insurrection against the local ICE facility.

      Samuel Tate Berry, a 2020 trans Antifa rioter who faced no consequences back then, was charged with assaulting a federal officer and failure to comply with official signs and direction.

      Berry is a 29-year-old man who identifies as female.”

      https://x.com/mrandyngo/status/1936206080021004338

      Lipstick in the mugshot, 5 foot 8 and 145 pounds.

      “They’re not sending their best”

      1. Arresting members of the rent-a-mobs is good, but going after their globalist oligarch sponsors & the brains of the operation would have far more of a deterrent effect.

    2. Things like this are what reminds us that the left is delusional and unhinged.

      Colorado Rapid Response should be arrested and charged with obstruction of justice. If you helped a bank robber escape you would be arrested and charged.

      1. Sexual assault on a minor.

        This is Democrat Party, this is their “base” this is their constituency.

  8. The Times in the UK. “James Toogood, a director in Savills’ country house department, says sellers need to be more realistic and realise we’re not in 2021 any more. ‘I think that in their heart of hearts they know that things have changed, but they are also looking back with one eye. It is tough to take.’

    Will the end of the the current global housing market (bubble) be as bad as the outcome of Sodom and Gomorrah? Economically speaking, of course…

    23 By the time Lot reached Zoar, the sun had risen over the land. 24 Then the Lord rained down burning sulfur on Sodom and Gomorrah—from the Lord out of the heavens. 25 Thus he overthrew those cities and the entire plain, destroying all those living in the cities—and also the vegetation in the land. 26 But Lot’s wife looked back, and she became a pillar of salt.

    27 Early the next morning Abraham got up and returned to the place where he had stood before the Lord. 28 He looked down toward Sodom and Gomorrah, toward all the land of the plain, and he saw dense smoke rising from the land, like smoke from a furnace. – Genesis 19:23-28

    Maybe not financial fire and brimstone, but I think we can expect at least a “small” crater as The Everything / Central Bank Bubble bursts. MOAB. Keynesian economics, as implemented, aided and abetted by global central banks (The Bank of Evil). “Got popcorn?” 🍿

    1. Compared to the street view of 2022, they definitely cleaned it up.

      I don’t have a good sense of the market down there. Comps are $100K to $140K, depending heavily on condition since they’re not cookie cutter. What would you pay for a house like this? Maybe $150K?

      1. Nearly all of the houses are 60+ years old. I might be willing to offer 150K for a house that is in very good condition and the neighbors keep up their properties.

  9. Why electricity prices are surging for U.S. households (6/21/2025):

    “Electricity prices rose 4.5% in the past year, according to the consumer price index for May 2025 — nearly double the inflation rate for all goods and services.

    The U.S. Energy Information Administration estimated in May that retail electricity prices would outpace inflation through 2026. Prices have already risen faster than the broad inflation rate since 2022, it said.

    At a high level, the growth in electricity demand and deactivation of power-generating facilities are outstripping the pace at which new electricity generation is being added to the electric grid, Hill said.

    Data center electricity use tripled to 176 Terawatt-hours in the decade through 2023, according to the U.S. Energy Department. Use is projected to double or triple by 2028, the agency said.

    Data centers are expected to consume up to 12% of total U.S. electricity by 2028, up from 4.4% in 2023, the Energy Department said.

    They’re “energy hungry,” Curran said. Demand growth has been “unexpected” and largely due to support for artificial intelligence, she said.

    The U.S. economy is set to consume more electricity in 2030 for processing data than for manufacturing all energy-intensive goods combined, including aluminum, steel, cement and chemicals, according to the International Energy Agency.”

    https://www.cnbc.com/2025/06/21/why-electricity-prices-are-surging-for-us-households.html

    Artificial intelligence, like all technology, exists only to enslave you.

    The QTS data center pictured in the article, our company built one of those in East Denver. I heard it’s really good at regurgitating woke replies to AI chats, and it can make George Washington into a Bblack man.

    1. The QTS data center pictured in the article

      That’s a lot of cars in the parking lot. I was told that data centers were supposed to be “lights out” with only a skeleton crew to keep things running.

      1. Perhaps at the time the picture was taken, there was a horde of engineers, technical people, installers, and electricians busily completing the center.

  10. ICE raids lead to another crisis for immigrant workers and families: How to pay rent

    Federal immigration raids across Southern California have been taking workers away from their families. After the initial shock of separation, those left behind are starting to wonder how they’ll pay next month’s rent.

    As President Donald Trump’s mass deportation efforts collide with L.A.’s deeply entrenched housing crisis, local tenant advocates are bracing for more families to fall behind on rent.

    “We will likely see an uptick of folks being evicted due to non-payment of rent, and the inciting event will be that their loved one was detained and taken by” Immigration and Customs Enforcement, said Henrissa Bassey, an eviction defense attorney with the legal aid nonprofit Bet Tzedek.

    Relatives of detainees say they’re not sure how they’ll cover their July 1 rent payment. Other immigrant workers who have not been detained are also losing income as entire workplaces shut down to avoid being targeted in future sweeps.

    In the desert city of Adelanto, two hours northeast of L.A. by car, people seized in recent sweeps are being held in an ICE detention center run by the private prison company GEO Group.

    U.S. Congress members who recently inspected the facility said the Adelanto ICE Processing Center is holding about 1,200 detainees. Some families have been able to visit their relatives, who have been moved far from their homes.

    “Their conditions inside there were awful,” said Leslie Quechol, who came to visit her cousin this week. Her cousin was one of dozens arrested in a raid on Ambiance Apparel, a company in downtown L.A.’s Fashion District.

    Quechol said her cousin is “the head of his household.” After being detained, he “left three kids and his wife” behind in their Boyle Heights home, Quechol said.

    With their sole breadwinner behind bars, the family is worried about paying next month’s rent. Quechol said her cousin’s wife is staying home to care for their children, aged 1 to 9. Quechol doubts their landlord will have much patience if the rent is late.

    “That’s not how it works,” she said. “She’s going to have to see where she’s going to have to go with her three children.”

    Juan, a garment worker in L.A., said his boss told him and dozens of other workers to stay home after the Ambiance Apparel raid. The decision to close the factory was made to avoid being targeted in another federal sweep. But it means workers are not getting paid.

    Speaking in Spanish, Juan said: “I think about this every day. Day after day, I think maybe I won’t be able to make rent.”

    Juan said his wife and daughter have been cooking and selling food out of their apartment. But it’s not bringing in enough money to cover the rent, which claims about two-thirds of his monthly income.

    “As the father of the family, I’ll have to see where I can get the money to pay my rent,” Juan said. “I’ll have to figure it out.”

    Day laborers are among the workers who have been arrested in recent raids. Arturo normally goes to the parking lot of a Home Depot in L.A.’s Westlake neighborhood to look for work.

    “Many people are no longer coming, because they’re afraid,” he said, speaking in Spanish.

    Arturo was there when masked agents stormed the parking lot and started grabbing and handcuffing people on June 6. Arturo said he managed to run to safety inside the Home Depot. But since the raid, his income has dropped significantly.

    Arturo said he’s been getting some work from past clients. But he’s not hanging around the Home Depot for now. He fears he could be late on next month’s rent.

    Immigrants without legal authorization to be in the country are not eligible for unemployment benefits. Arturo said he has learned more about his rights from the L.A. Tenants Union, but other forms of assistance are hard to find.

    “Sometimes, there’s no support — moral, psychological or legal support from people who can help or tell you what you can do to avoid being evicted,” Arturo said.

    Arturo recalled one time when he paid his rent late. He said his landlord told him there are plenty of people who’d like the chance to take his spot.

    https://laist.com/news/housing-homelessness/los-angeles-ice-immigration-raids-detention-economy-housing-costs-rent

    1. “his landlord told him there are plenty of people who’d like the chance to take his spot”

      Deporting twenty million should free up rentals for actual U.S. citizens and taxpayers. You can take all your anchor babies with you too when you leave.

    2. They can join their breadwinner in their home country. And it’s belter to do it before the money runs out and you are evicted.

    3. as entire workplaces shut down to avoid being targeted in future sweeps.

      I’ve read about the illegal workers staying away to avoid being detained, but this is the first I’ve read of workplaces actually closing. So, does this mean that ICE is also fining and/or jailing employers, or at least giving them a stern warning? It’s clear that the 47 Admin is going to scare them all into self-deporting.

      Also this is the first I’ve read of illegal aliens living paycheck to paycheck. They must not be sending out much in the way of remittances.

      1. They must not be sending out much in the way of remittances.

        Which must annoy red diaper baby Claudia to no end.

  11. Altadena ICE raid highlights fears that roundups will stymie rebuilding efforts

    When ICE agents raided the construction site of a burned property in Altadena earlier this month, they made no arrests. The man they were after was not there. But the mere specter of them returning spooked the workers enough to bring the project to a temporary halt.

    The next day, half of the 12-man team stayed home. The crew returned to full strength by the end of the week, but they now work in fear, according to Brock Harris, a real estate agent representing the developer of the property. “It had a chilling effect,” he said. “They’re instilling fear in the workers trying to rebuild L.A.”

    Harris said another developer in the area started camouflaging his construction sites: hiding Porta Potties, removing construction fences and having workers park far away and carpool to the site so as not to attract attention.

    The consequences will spread far beyond those who are deported, the report said. Many of the undocumented workers who manage to avoid ICE will be forced to withdraw from the labor force.

    https://ca.news.yahoo.com/altadena-ice-raid-highlights-fears-100000488.html

    1. Forced into hiding because you now acknowledge that your illegal presence in the country may have consequences?

      I fail to see any problem here.

  12. Mother self-deports amid aggressive ICE raids, leaving family behind in Los Angeles

    As immigration enforcement operations continue across Southern California amid President Trump’s plan to ramp up his targeting of Democratic cities like Los Angeles, one grandmother has followed a new trend in the immigrant community: self-deport before feds catch up with them.

    Regina, who declined to share their last name for safety reasons, boarded her plane back to Mexico this month, leaving behind three adult children and three grandchildren.

    “As soon as she crossed the corner, broke down,” Julie, Regina’s daughter, said after she said a tearful goodbye at the airport. “I just needed to make sure she was good, and that’s when it all came down.”

    Regina had planned to self deport for months, fearing the mass deportations promised by President Trump.

    Even on the day of departure, the family was on edge as they crossed the border into the Mexico before Regina got on the plane from a Mexican airport.

    “Even driving there, I was worried,” Julie said.

    Regina rushed to leave Los Angeles just hours after the large-scale immigration operations took place in downtown LA.

    “She started seeing that more raids and more raids started and said no, ‘I have to do this now,’” Julie recalled her conversation with her mom.

    Regina is described to be a “tough” woman, who crossed the border into the U.S. illegally when she was 15 years old to find a better life.

    Since Regina went back to Mexico, her daughters have been FaceTiming with her almost every day. The matriarch puts on a strong face until being asked about missing her children.

    “If you ask me about my family, I can’t talk,” Regina said while holding back tears. She said it’s hard being separated from her family even though she knows her children will travel to visit.

    Days after Regina’s self-deportation, her children in Los Angeles are still wondering if they made the right decision.

    “It’s hard, but we are still hanging in there,” Julie said.

    https://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/mother-self-deports-amid-aggressive-ice-raids-leaving-family-behind-in-los-angeles/3729010/

    1. They’re going to hop right back in as soon as the next President throws the border open again. At least, that’s what they think they will do.

  13. Fearing arrest, Venezuelan migrant gives up on US dream

    A Venezuelan woman who went through hell to emigrate to America is going back to her troubled homeland, saying that living in fear is no life at all.

    Deisy — who declined to give her last name for safety concerns — will uproot her three children, sever all the links she made in America and brave the economic misery and other turmoil she fled in the first place.

    That’s how terrified she is, every day, all day, of being scooped up in one of the raids the Trump administration is carrying out in its relentless crackdown on people without papers.

    “What I thought was a dream has turned into a nightmare,” said Deisy. “The situation is total chaos. Who wants to be arrested in a country that is not theirs?”

    Any day now, transplanted Chicago resident Deisy, 37, and her kids will join the growing number of people deporting themselves to avoid falling into the hands of Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) agents.

    Deisy arrived in the United States in 2019 after an arduous trip from Panama, where she had emigrated six years earlier to find work.

    In her hometown of Maracay in the north of Venezuela, she could not make a living so she made the heartbreaking decision to leave her children with her mother and set out in search of a better life for all of them.

    After crossing the border with Mexico on foot, she turned herself in to the US authorities and was released with the obligation to appear later in immigration court.

    Her first taste of Chicago was grueling. She had little money, spoke no English and had no papers. But she stuck it out. In order to live and send money back home, she worked in construction — demolition, to be exact — and drove an Uber.

    Now, what Deisy fears is not leaving but staying. Not long ago the immigration authorities picked up a work colleague whose status is the same as hers — living in the US with an asylum request pending.

    The Trump administration has pledged to revoke a special temporary status that Joe Biden’s administration granted to hundreds of thousands of Venezuelans that shielded them from deportation.

    They include Deisy’s children, who joined her in 2022, and her husband, a Venezuelan she met in the United States.

    “We live in fear that we will be stopped on the street,” Deisy said. “We don’t want to be deported to a jail with criminals, where they treat us all as if we were members of Tren de Aragua.”

    Going home is not easy. Besides uprooting the family, Deisy has to pay for the trip and deal with messy paperwork. For instance, many Venezuelans have had their passports seized by US authorities.

    After considering several options she has decided to fly with a travel agency that specializes in people like her, Venezuelans going home. It is running 60 flights a month — 70 percent more than before Trump was inaugurated.

    “Life in Venezuela is rough, but my husband and I do not seek to be rich. And I think I prefer peace and quiet, the stability of being at home,” said Deisy. “For us, peace of mind is priceless.”

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/fearing-arrest-venezuelan-migrant-gives-up-on-us-dream/ar-AA1H7YUb

    1. “Deisy has to pay for the trip”

      U.S. taxpayers were supposed to pay for it instead? You can leave now. All of you.

    2. “What I thought was a dream has turned into a nightmare,” said Deisy. “The situation is total chaos. Who wants to be arrested in a country that is not theirs?”

      Not what those smiling NGO workers told you back in Venezuela. They told you that you would be welcomed with open arms and you would join the free sh!t army.

    1. Benzinga
      Peter Schiff Predicts ‘Worse Financial Crisis Than 2008’ As Fed Holds Rates: ‘The Solution Involves Much Higher Interest Rates’ As Years of Easy Money Trigger Stagflation And Investor Exodus
      Tanya Rawat
      Thu, June 19, 2025 at 8:30 PM PDT
      2 min read

      Economist Peter Schiff issued warnings about America’s economic trajectory during Wednesday’s Federal Reserve meeting, predicting the central bank’s decade-long policies will trigger an unavoidable crisis worse than 2008.

      https://finance.yahoo.com/news/peter-schiff-predicts-worse-financial-033054809.html

    2. Federal Reserve
      Published June 20, 2025 3:45pm EDT
      Fed governor breaks ranks with Powell, signals rate cuts could begin next month
      Markets forecast September as more likely timeframe for first rate cut despite governor’s dovish comments
      By Eric Revell FOXBusiness
      Trump calls out “too late” Jerome Powell over rate decision

      The Federal Reserve has held off on cutting interest rates in 2025 to date, although one member of the board of governors is signaling that could change as early as next month.

      Federal Reserve Governor Christopher Waller said in a Friday interview with CNBC’s “Squawk Box” that he believes the central bank is in a position to start lowering rates starting next month.

      “I think we’re in a position that we could do this as early as July,” Waller told the outlet. “That would be my view, whether the committee would go along with it or not.”

      https://www.foxbusiness.com/economy/fed-governor-breaks-ranks-powell-signals-rate-cuts-could-begin-next-month

  14. Undocumented immigrants living in fear of deportation

    Crossing a busy street lined by vendors with heavy accents selling lotions, fruits and other goods, there’s an old building around the corner of 180 Street and Juan Pablo Duarte Boulevard in Washington Heights, Manhattan.

    Tucked away with no obvious signage, a small immigrant rights nonprofit operates inside. To enter, you get buzzed in and take an antique elevator with a manually opening door. On the third floor, in a small office, the room is filled with Hispanic families, many with young children, waiting patiently so they could speak about their immigration cases with Elvira Vargas, a lawyer and president of Coalition Pro Immigrants.

    A television plays the news in Spanish, filling the space with familiar sounds. On the wall hangs a sign featuring the Statue of Liberty and the US national flag, boldly printed with the word “Freedom”.

    After opening the glass door, you are greeted by Elvis M. Jaquez, who will learn more about your case. Most of the people who come are undocumented. Jaquez said people are scared and right now is a case of “bad place, bad timing” as President Donald Trump’s administration is enforcing immigration laws “more than they should”.

    “People are scared to walk outside just because they don’t know if (their) stepping outside will be the last time they’ll be in the US. …Other people have told me that they don’t even want to take their kids to school sometimes because of ICE (Immigration and Customs Enforcement). They’re going to get taken on the way to school because they (ICE) are posted up in front of school sometimes,” said Jaquez.

    An undocumented immigrant who came to the US 26 years ago and goes by the first name of Mariam told The New York Times that she was fired recently from her job in a laundromat because of all the ICE raids across the country.

    “Many people have lost their jobs overnight,” said the mother of five. “We’re all afraid.”

    Elvira Vargas of Coalition Pro Immigrants strongly opposes mass deportations. She said: “Not all the people that are here are criminals, but most of the people are working people who have family, who came here to get a better life. … For one reason or another, they couldn’t legalize. But they’ve been here all their life. Many of those people even have homes, businesses established here.”

    https://www.chinadaily.com.cn/a/202506/21/WS6855fae6a310a04af22c79a7.html

    1. President Donald Trump’s administration is enforcing immigration laws “more than they should

      Sorry, wrong answer. Thanks for playing! And no, there are no parting gifts. Security will show you out the door.

    2. she was fired recently from her job in a laundromat because of all the ICE raids across the country

      I suspect that when the illegals run out of money that we will see even more self deportations.

      1. “Many people have lost their jobs overnight,” said the mother of five’

        Miriam will be out of money in a week, better get a suitcase.

          1. And I will guess that the taxpayers paid for each of their births and years of EBT/WIC, public education, Medicaid, etc.

      2. I haven’t been able to keep up with everything going on, especially with those court cases going back and forth. But, from what I can tell, the NGOs and other agencies still have some money left from the Continuing Resolution that was passed months ago. The CR kept spending at Biden levels until September 30.

        But at the moment, Congress is working on 12 additional funding bills to appropriate new funds for October. At that point, I believe that the agencies will simply not have any money to dole out to illegal immigrants. Specifically, FEMA was housing them and HHS was feeding them. Not to mention all the money going to the 900,000 parolees who just had their status yanked. That’s on top of USAID being 82% defunded.

        If everything goes as the Republicans want, the money picture for illegal immigrants will be much different next fall.

    3. Not all the people that are here are criminals

      They might not be violent felons but most commit fraud to get free cheese from the gooberment. They are experts at gaming the system. Going as far as getting fake divorces to become “single mothers” and get more gibs. There is a reason why most of them have nice cars.

  15. After driving 6 mph over speed limit on a rural U.P. road, couple faces deportation

    Jorge Nicolas and Maria Magdalena Benitez were driving down a quiet road in the Upper Peninsula when red and blue lights flashed behind them.

    A Menominee County Sheriff’s Office deputy stopped the couple on Wednesday, April 9 for going 61 mph in a 55 mph zone. About five minutes later, Nicolas said U.S. Customs and Border Protection showed up – even though they were roughly 200 miles from the Canadian border. Nicolas felt hopeless.

    “It just sucks that we cannot fix our status, even though we are persons of good character,” he said. “But the law is the law.”

    Nicolas, a Mexican immigrant who’s been living without legal status for nearly 20 years, and Magdalena Benitez, 36, also undocumented, never expected to get picked up by border officials in a remote corner of Michigan.

    They have no criminal records. Their children are U.S. citizens. Their families live here. But they’re now facing deportation.

    First moving to the United States in 1999, Nicolas spent his middle school and high school years living in Green Bay, Wisconsin until his parents decided to briefly move back to Mexico.

    He then returned in 2007 on a tourist visa so he could earn more money here.

    But because he was 18, Nicolas no longer qualified for Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals – an Obama-era policy that shields young adults who came to the U.S. as children from deportation. This left him with few options to gain legal status.

    The plan was to wait for his younger brother, an 18-year-old who was born in the United States, to turn 21 and petition for his citizenship.

    Over the past two decades, though, Nicolas built his life here. Nicolas had a son, who was born at 27 weeks old and spent his first six months in the NICU. He works for a lumber mill. Now married to Magdalena Benitez, who crossed the border 15 years ago to work on Wisconsin dairy farms, the couple was saving to buy a house and started a party decorating business.

    “We consider this country our country,” he said.

    They were leaving a shift one April afternoon when a Menominee County Sheriff’s Office deputy stopped them for speeding on U.S. 41. A deputy’s radar caught them going six miles over the posted speed limit on the rural road.

    Magdalena Benitez, who didn’t have a driver’s license, gave the deputy her Mexican ID. Nicolas says border agents showed up within minutes to arrest them.

    Nicolas and Magdalena Benitez then were transferred to U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement custody. They were detained for a month in separate facilities, awaiting court hearings, until they were allowed to post bonds of $10,000 and $35,000.

    Nicolas left the Chippewa County Correctional Facility – one of five ICE detention centers in Michigan – on May 8. Magdalena Benitez was held in an Ohio facility until May 13.

    Shortly after, on May 20, they got married back home in Wisconsin.

    But now, the couple’s life is in limbo.

    They’re fighting their deportation and trying to get work permits. But they will likely wait months for a hearing because there are more than 31,000 pending cases in Michigan’s sole immigration court.

    In the meantime, they aren’t allowed to work or drive a car under an order from an immigration judge. They’re riding bikes, taking the bus and scraping by with the help of friends, family and a GoFundMe fundraiser. Nicolas’ son also asked him not to go to Michigan anymore.

    “We’re out. We’re able to spend time with family,” Nicolas said, “but at the same time you’re looking over your shoulder.”

    If Nicolas gets deported, he doesn’t know what he’ll do. He’s lived his entire adult life in the United States. He has no work experience in Mexico. And his only remaining family member there is a grandmother. His parents, brother and sister all live in Wisconsin.

    “I know the story of this country better than mine,” he said.

    https://www.mlive.com/public-interest/2025/06/after-driving-6-mph-over-speed-limit-on-a-rural-up-road-couple-faces-deportation.html

    ‘Their families live here’

    Get their sail phone contacts and lock em up!

    1. He then returned in 2007 on a tourist visa so he could earn more money here.

      Sounds kind of fraudulent to me.

    2. Nicolas had a son, who was born at 27 weeks old

      I’m gonna go out on a limb and guess that taxpayers covered the bill for that.

    3. His parents, brother and sister all live in Wisconsin.

      I have heard of chain immigration. Is there such a thing as chain deportations?

    4. Why were they allowed out on bond? Shouldn’t they have been deported straight from the detention center?

      If I piece this together correctly(?): In 1999, Nicholas’s parents entered illegally with him in tow. Nicholas appears to be out of the legal window to be a DACA. The parents had the younger brother and probably the sister too, so the younger siblings are legal. I notice that Nicholas and Maggie didn’t get married until after they got deportation orders.

      I have no idea how they are going to get work permits. They aren’t on parole and they are far past the limit for applying for asylum. I suspect this family is going to self-deport. Good, that’s another 4-5 that won’t clog up the emergency rooms.

  16. These days women wonder why men aren’t willing to settle-down with them, buy a house, start a family, etc. A cursory review of titles on ‘r/survivinginfidelity’ yields a clue:

    “Caught my husband checking out another woman at the pool”
    Here’s a few opening replies from the comments:
    – You’re in an abusive relationship.
    – Start talking to lawyers. He has to give you HALF!
    – Omg please leave.
    – He is definitely going to start something up with her.
    – You are in an extremely abusive relationship.
    – That’s actually not a good sign, he has zero respect for you!
    – Your husband is awful.

    LMFAO!!

    1. “Caught my husband checking out another woman at the pool”

      I used to love the raised eyebrows my wife would hit me with when I stayed on that bikini just a little too long and returned a whoops look in return. But hell, some of them were just worth it.

    1. Plus no more “grants” from the swamp.

      Last year Dumver spent over $300M on caring for the invaders. It’s all fun and games to spend other people’s money, that is until it runs out. It does sound like the city is prioritizing the invaders over the Comrades of Proven Worth.

    2. I will continue making a point to not generate sales tax revenue for the City / County of Denver.

      No gibs for you!

    1. The 2020 election steal was a hollow victory for the globalists & their Democrat minions, as it led directly to Trump 2.0. After 4 years of enduring the fraudulently-installed Biden regime, the backlash has given Trump the mandate he needs to start mass deportations, unleash DOGE on the entrenched Deep State & Democrat-Bolshevik nomenklatura, and to root out “wokeness” from the military.

  17. For those market participants with wishful thinking that “it’s different this time,” and HB 2.0 will end differently than HB 1.0, well, sorry to burst your bubble… 🎈

    https://charleshughsmith.blogspot.com/2025/06/how-housing-bubble-2-bursts.html

    How Housing Bubble #2 Bursts

    Charles Hugh Smith | OTM Blog
    Wednesday, June 18, 2025

    Selected excerpts here. I’m sure this is fine. Interesting times indeed.

    “Let’s indulge in some basic logic:
    1. All credit-asset bubbles burst.
    2. U.S. housing is a credit-asset bubble.
    3. [If one accepts (1) and (2), then (3) follows:] The U.S. housing bubble will burst.”

    “The only variables are how and when Housing Bubble #2 will burst. That’s today’s topic.”

    “Housing Bubble #2 has rolled over into the decline phase, but this is discounted by the consensus…”

    “2. The Federal Reserve / federal government effectively nationalized the mortgage industry post-2009 Global Financial Meltdown as the means to stop the decline of housing valuations and re-inflate them via super-low mortgage rates.”

    “For its part, the federal government effectively nationalized the quasi-governmental mortgage agencies (Fannie Mae, Freddy Mac), using these agencies to guarantee most mortgages in the U.S.”

    “3. The incentive (lower mortgage rates) to commit fraud by claiming to be an owner-occupant rather than an investor has pushed mortgage fraud to levels that Federal Reserve researchers declare “rampant.””

    “The frenzy to buy and convert houses to short-term vacation rentals (STVRs) took off in the post-pandemic “revenge travel” boom. Corporate purchases of houses as rental properties had taken off in the post-2009 era of mass foreclosures, a trend that accelerated as private equity sought new markets to exploit.”

    “Combine corporate / private-equity buyers with small investors flooding into STVRs and the post-pandemic panic-buying frenzy, and it’s little wonder that investors–declared and fraudulent, large and small–now own huge swaths of housing in the U.S.:”

    “As “revenge travel” shrivels up, property taxes and insurance rise and inflation ravages household budgets, STVRs are quickly shifting from income-producing assets to loss-generating liabilities. Investors either sell before they’re under-water or the risk of default rises accordingly.”

    “Professionally managed corporate and private-equity owners will start unloading properties as rents sag and vacancies rise. STVR owners who realize the tide has reversed will also rush to sell before the price slide gathers momentum.”

    “This chart of Federal Reserve ownership of mortgage-backed securities (MBS) overlays neatly with each leap higher in valuations. Pump “free money” into the financial system and keep rates at historic lows, and voila, you can inflate a bubble for the ages.”

    “The post-pandemic buying frenzy pushed the cost per square foot of houses listed for sale up 57%.”

    “The Fed’s mass manipulation of mortgage rates in 2010 “saved” Bubble #1 from playing out in a free-market manner [i.e. bursting], but the Fed won’t be able to engineer an equivalent “save” this time around, as the mortgage market has already been nationalized and the Fed already owns a stupendous $2.1 trillion of MBS.”

    “The Case-Shiller Index offers a long-term view of how far valuations could drop once the bubble bursts. A 40% decline would be the norm, and a 50% drop would be well within the typical range of bubbles bursting.”

    “Corporate / private equity / STVR investors are all fair-weather owners of housing. Once the profits shrink or reverse into losses, investors push the “sell” button. And since housing is priced on the margins, it only takes a handful of get-me-out sales to push valuations down 10%, then 20%, then 30% and eventually to a bottom between 40% anf 50%.”

    “This vulnerability to the collapse of valuations is the bitter fruit of the Fed’s manipulation of rates and mortgages over the past 16 years. We love a “free market” when rapidly expanding credit inflates a bubble, but oh dearie-dearie me, we have to stop the “free market” from operating if it bursts the bubble.”

    “Here’s how Housing Bubble #2 bursts: buyers of overvalued, money-losing properties vanish, those who waited too long sink underwater (sales prices are lower than what they paid), marginal investors default, owner-occupants who lose their jobs sell or default, private equity realizes their losses will only increase the longer they hold off selling, and the momentum of sellers far outnumbering buyers cascades.”

    “Greed is replaced by fear, and then by the realization it’s too late to exit without losses. This is how bubbles burst.”

    1. ‘The post-pandemic buying frenzy pushed the cost per square foot of houses listed for sale up 57%’

      And most places were already a bubble before the CCP virus. Now it’s everywhere. I see it all the time looking at foreclosure data cuz it often has taxable value for this period. Little crappy towns often are up 50% or even 100% in five years.

      1. I wonder how they will deal with the tsunami of mortgage loan defaults. Will we see waves of shadow inventory and will there also be huge numbers of zombie houses, whose occupants will brag that they haven’t made a payment in years? Will there be pressure to allow legal immigration to prop up the market?

        What is different this time are the short term rentals. Zillions of them. I learned that there even was one in my neighborhood before the scamdemic. Haven’t checked to see if it’s still offered on AirBnB.

        1. We’re already seeing it in Cape Coral. I posted that one link probably 10 days ago that had a reporter on a video showing small neighborhoods of half finished shacks, then recently that they have 1600 foreclosures.

          And fannie/freddie were financing STRs. Right after the minor respiratory illness started I post an article with a 24 year old guy who had two STR in Austin with GSE loans. Prior to that I didn’t know the GSE’s were financing them. And they must have let this guy used STR income to qualify because I doubt a 24YO would have the income to qualify for two in an expensive city like Austin.

          1. “And they must have let this guy used STR income to qualify because I doubt a 24YO would have the income to qualify for two in an expensive city like Austin.”

            I’ve heard that DSCR loans were used a lot for STR purchases. The easy money era is over, at least for now.

            “A DSCR loan, or Debt Service Coverage Ratio loan, is a type of mortgage primarily used for real estate investments, where approval is based on the property’s cash flow rather than the borrower’s personal income. This allows investors to qualify for loans based on the income generated by the property, making it easier to finance rental properties.”

            I think that many levers were pulled and knobs turned, as well as some new ones added, post GFC to make it easy for people to acquire resi. properties, and even more so during the scam-demic. This goes for the stonk markets as well.

            I’m reading that there was a lot of fraud during this period, including PPP loans, ERC, HUD foreclosure prevention, including the myriad of subordinate housing agencies, QE/MBS purchase by the Fed, etc. This was done to re-inflate HB 1.0. This was only can-kicking, since eventually, asset bubbles always burst. With higher inflation and rates now, have we finally run out of runway and stick-saves for the housing market? Are the chickens finally home to roost?

            2025 could get even more “interesting” as the stonk market is also highly overvalued and is showing signs of making another leg down in a likely bear market.

            Simultaneous housing and stonk market crashes would cause a deep recession at a minimum. Think 2008 dot-com + 2008-09 GFC combined, especially since housing + stonks are “the economy” now. I think we’ll know soon enough, but the Everything Bubble is bursting. Humpty Dumpty.

            The Golden Age of Fraud™

    1. A doctor once told me last year that he was afraid that we would end up with an “authoritarian” government. I responded that we already had one, and that they tried to force me into getting an experimental “vaccine”

    2. 2022 poll results that 30% of Democrat Party wanted to TAKE PEOPLES KIDS AWAY for not getting injected with deadly mRNA poison.

      F* your amnesty, and every other @sshole licker who writes for The Atlantic.

    1. Buying socks at Walmart has become a degrading experience, a reminder of what happens in every Vote Blue No Matter Who city. I’ll pay 20% more to buy them at Englewood Army Navy than go back to the tattoos and obesity.

      1. I drive to a Wal-Mart that is 30 miles away just to avoid the locked cases and the sketchy clientele. Semi-rural areas are still high-trust societies.

        1. They don’t check receipts at the local WalMart and nothing is locked up. But I could see that changing if the border is reopened. We were luck this time around, invaders were not shipped in bulk to my little burg.

          When My sister visited last year she said “Wow, it still feels like America here.”

  18. How Xi lost the grip of his military to Zhang Youxia

    Lei’s Real Talk

    21 hours ago

    Zhang Youxia was once Xi Jinping’s most trusted man in the military. Their fathers had fought together during the revolution, and the two families were close. Xi even entrusted Zhang with his personal security. But one day, Xi suddenly realized that Zhang had grown too powerful. Their relationship began to sour—and what followed seemed like fate. An old prophecy had predicted that a warrior with a bow would dethrone Xi. During the power struggle, one retired vice chairman of the Central Military Commission (Xu Qiliang) died, and an active-duty one (He Weidong) went missing.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7HJL5T8h7JA

    12:19. I mentioned this ladys channel recently saying Xitler is under house arrest. This is a short one so I’m posting it. At 9:30 she says Xitler had a ‘fateful stroke’ in July 2024.

  19. ‘Compared to March 2024, the sales price of condominiums and townhomes was down 14.5% from $339,000’

    It’s a good thing everybody put 20% down!

  20. ‘keep homes on the market longer, causing a ‘pile-up’ effect. ‘The result is a whopping 4.2 months’ supply of inventory, setting a near-15-year record high…‘Active but not going anywhere…the mountain metro market is experiencing its highest inventory in a decade. ‘In the foothills, we usually see peak inventory in August or September. But, as of the end of May 2025, we’re experiencing the highest level of active listings in over a decade – about 36% more homes on the market compared to May 2024, and more than double what we saw in May 2023. High supply and low demand indicate this won’t last,’ she said. ‘The laws of supply and demand suggest we’re headed for some price adjustments’

    Another sponsored post in the Post. UHS paid to bring you this unedited message.

  21. ‘Zent of Pacific Beach agrees that more needs to be done to regulate ADUs. ‘I have read the amendments and I feel they leave the door open on excessive units on a property,’ he said. ‘There should only be one unit allowed. It should be single-story with parking provided on the parcel. No two stories are allowed, as it impacts backyard privacy. No one would have a problem with a single ADU. However, these build-outs change the neighborhood and can affect a home’s value’

    I bet yer blood pressure is terrible Bill, but it’s still way cheaper than renting.

    ‘They are building six ADUs next door,’ noted Judi Curry of Sunset Cliffs. She asked, ‘Where are those people going to park? What will happen to the water shortage? What will the noise be like? That’s in addition to making the one-story house a two-story house with a sundeck on top. It was allowed to happen. How? Why? Who benefits?’

    I’m coming to the conclusion Judi that the majority of the people left in that sh$thole are really stupid.

  22. ‘Like if someone bought a condo in 2023, its [value] might be down 20 to 40 per cent’

    It’s a good thing everybody put 50% down Ira!

  23. ‘According to Karim Oviedo Ramírez, the national president of the Mexican Association of Professional Realtors, new projects with entry points between $350,000 and $500,000 USD (7 to 10 million pesos) are now the norm, placing Los Cabos at the apex of Mexico’s property value chain. ‘For our association, Los Cabos is a strategic municipality because it has many investments,’ Oviedo explained. ‘It is an important place to invest, generating good returns’

    I hope those suckers are K-dns Karim.

    1. Cabo gets its fresh water from aquifers (wells). Once they are drained Cabo and its neighboring cities will become ghost towns.

  24. ‘I think that in their heart of hearts they know that things have changed, but they are also looking back with one eye. It is tough to take’

    I hear a$$ poundings can be like that Jim.

    ‘In Wales, Carol Peett, the managing director of West Wales Property Finders, who was mobbed with buyers in 2020 and 2021, suspects the buyers who were throwing money at coastal homes were dimly aware they were overpaying in 2021, but their burning desire for a lifestyle change quelled any doubts. ‘They just wanted to escape,’ she says. ‘They were doing it for lifestyle, not for profit’

    Yer right Carol, people were paying 50% more during minor respiratory illness to escape! 100 kilometers away. It had nothing to do with the most yuuge increase in money supply we’ve ever experienced.

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