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A report from the Pueblo Chieftain in Colorado. “New residential real estate figures released this week indicate Pueblo’s market is not showing signs of significant improvement during the first three months of the year. The median sales price fell 4.7% in March and is down 1.3% year to date at $311,000, as sellers continue to offer price reductions to help get their properties sold, said Dave Anderson, spokersperson for the Pueblo Association of Realtors. ‘We sit at three months’ supply of homes to sell with few buyers as higher interest rates continue to be a holdup for many potential buyers. Builders continue to move slowly with just 14 new housing permits obtained in March,’ Anderson explained.”

The Palm Beach Post in Florida. “I wanted to remind everyone that the December 31, 2024 deadline for condominiums to obtain a Structural Integrity Reserve Study, or SIRS, is fast approaching. For any budget passed on or after December 31, 2024, the reserve funds mandated by this required report cannot be waived. That is going to amount to a huge sticker shock for many owners who have gotten used to waiving their reserves each year. I have seen condominiums where this is predicted to add six or even seven figures a year to the overall budget — a huge increase. This, when combined with the gigantic insurance increases everyone has experienced the last two or three years, means that large numbers of condominium owners across the state are going to have tremendous difficulty affording homes that were affordable just a year or two ago. Without intervention from the state, many people are going to lose their homes to foreclosure actions as a result.”

Boca News Now in Florida. “Another homeowners association says it’s had enough and is demanding payment from property owners allegedly disregarding their requirement to pay fees and dues. The Canyon Lakes Homeowners Association in Boynton Beach is initiating foreclosure action against homeowners Marie Krause and Wayne Holder. They allegedly owe $42,763.72 — one of the highest numbers we’ve ever seen when it comes to back payments owed to a non-country club association. The balance due includes a special assessment recorded in October of 2021 for $35,804.46. The home, at 10437 Willow Oaks Trail in Boynton, is valued at $658,868, according to the Palm Beach County Property Appraiser. It was purchased in 2005 for $367,900. HOA fees and dues are not optional in Florida.”

The New York Post. “A crafty squatter bilked his landlord of at least $72,000 in rent for his Lower East Side apartment — then made tens of thousands in profit by subletting the unit, the owner charges. For three years, computer programmer Thor Boucher hasn’t paid a cent of his bargain-rate $2,000-a-month, two-bedroom, one-bathroom Essex Street pad, claiming he didn’t have to because the building was noisy and shook, according to landlord Ed Yau and Manhattan Civil Court documents. The alleged freeloader had no qualms renting the space out, though, charging as much as $1950 per room monthly since November 2021 on platforms including Airbnb and Craigslist.”

“‘I feel betrayed by my politicians, the bureaucracy, Yau told The Post. ‘The system needs to be fair because right now it’s easily exploited,’ he added. ‘Housing court is not functioning so rent is optional — they don’t have to pay and nothing is going to happen to them.’ Squatter horror stories like Yau’s, meanwhile, will scare landlords to pull their units from the market, warned Ann Korchak, president of the industry group Small Property Owners of New York. ‘If it’s a small building, if one person stops paying, that’s the difference between you being able to pay your taxes and mortgage or not,’ she said.”

KIRO in Washington. “We met Jason Roth in October. He was homeless and living in his van while his delinquent tenant, Kareem Hunter, lived rent free in Jason Roth’s house. A few weeks ago, Hunter’s free ride came to an abrupt end when King County Sheriff’s descended on Jason’s home. The Housing Justice Project (HJP) is the taxpayer funded law firm that defended Hunter in court. HJP received more than $4 million to represent tenants statewide. Jason lost more than $80,000 in back rent and legal fees. But in today’s housing market, this eviction was considered a win. ‘I’m shocked that this was considered a win. You know, providing housing for a complete scam artist for a year and having him walk away with no punishments is a win. That’s crazy,’ said Roth.”

“Currently, Washington state is the only state that provides delinquent tenants a free lawyer to represent them in eviction court. The current back log in King County, according to the Rental Housing Association of Washington, is 6 months.”

From R Street. “What do the state’s insurance and housing crises have in common? Obviously, homeowner policies have an impact on housing costs, but I’m referring to something different, namely the concept of open-ended risk. Insurers are exiting the market because state policies limit their ability to price policies to reflect the risk of a major wildfire season. They rather pull out of California than risk the destruction of their assets. I’d argue the same thing is happening in the rental market, thanks to a fusillade of pro-tenant laws that subject landlords to an incalculable level of risk. It’s one thing to realize it might require x number of legal fees to remove a bad tenant and quite another to wrap one’s head around the possibility of someone staying in a rent-controlled unit forever.”

“We’ve seen the news stories. Someone moves into a short-term rental then refuses to leave. In Oakland, a group of organized homeless women commandeered a vacant house. In Los Angeles, alleged squatters turned an empty mansion into a party house. If housing is a ‘human right,’ then owners no longer have a right to their property.”

The Boston Globe in Massachusetts. “According to recent findings from the Federal Housing Finance Agency, underappraisals (when the appraised value of a home is less than the agreed-upon sales price) spiked to 15 percent in 2021 and hit 12 percent in 2022 in the United States. How did it happen, and why didn’t we hear more about it at the time? Rick Lipof of Lipof Real Estate Services in Newton said prices rose so quickly in those years, it’s not surprising that appraisals, which are based on recent closed sales, didn’t keep pace, even with the adjustments they are allowed to make when the market is moving quickly in either direction.”

“‘The lender does not want to lend at a maximum price in a frenzied market,’ Lipof said. ‘We’ve seen what happens when they do. People in 1987 purchased at the top of the market, and they couldn’t sell for that same number again for seven to ten years. So we do not need to be pushing values. It benefits nobody.’ He said lenders want accurate appraisal values, but that number is a fast-moving target in a frenzied market like the one Boston experienced. If the appraisals turn out to be a little low, that helps reduce the risk for lenders and keeps some buyers from overpaying.”

“‘It’s very difficult for appraisers to get enough of the right data to make a perfectly accurate adjustment, and we do our best,’ he said. ‘But if you’ve got an increasing market, we’re always going to be lagging a little behind, and the reason why we were off so much during the pandemic is because we’ve never had prices rise that fast.'”

From CBC News. “”RVs — along with boats, ATVs and other outdoor vehicles — sold like hotcakes during the pandemic, as people poured their vacation funds into goods that could be enjoyed closer to home. Like a lot of Canadians, Alan Hong and his wife bought a trailer in 2020. Air travel was out of the question because of pandemic restrictions, and it made sense to spend time and money exploring the great outdoors. But now, they’re looking to get off life on the open road and get back in the air. ‘People have a little bit less discretionary income,’ said Eleonore Hamm, the association’s president. People aren’t just putting off buying a new RV. Some are getting rid of the one they have altogether. ‘There’s quite a bit of pre-owned inventory on dealership lots at the moment.'”

“‘Right now what we’re seeing is a buyer’s market,’ said Chris Perera, who also owns BoatDealers.ca and says a similar trend is unfolding in that sector. Jason Huntley is an RV owner who’s been trying to sell his current model for about a year. The buyer’s market is tough news for sellers like Huntley. Huntley has bought and sold many RVs in his decades-long camping career, and has had one listed online for about a year. He said this is the longest it’s ever taken him to make a sale. ‘It feels to me like the market is pretty flooded,’ he said.”

The Sun in the UK. “Neighbours of a man who built a now-demolished ‘monster mansion’ are fuming after he failed to tidy up the rubble and rubbish. Gurwinder Singh and his wife Rajwinder Kaur sparked fury when they built a ‘Travelodge’ looking home which they knocked down following a council order. The pair were ordered to tear down their ‘dream’ new four-bed home which they had built without planning permission after knocking down their original semi. Locals had fumed the building work had made their ‘lives hell’ while others described the ‘eyesore’ as ‘like a Travelodge in the middle of a housing estate’ and dubbed it ‘monster mansion.'”

“The Punjabi-speaking home owner, who lives in a rented house in Walsall, believes he has been victimised and ‘taken advantage of’ because of his nationality and poor lack of the English language. He previously said: ‘Neighbours have been unfair about the house, they call is a monstrosity and I have no reason why. It’s all been very stressful, I have spent my life savings on this house for my family and we have never even lived there. We feel let down by the system. It is a planning nightmare.’ Next door neighbour Pat claims her home has been ‘wrecked’ by the unauthorised building and demolition works and has left it ‘unsaleable.'”

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  1. ‘sellers continue to offer price reductions to help get their properties sold, said Dave Anderson, spokersperson for the Pueblo Association of Realtors. ‘We sit at three months’ supply of homes to sell with few buyers as higher interest rates continue to be a holdup for many potential buyers’

    Continue to give it away Dave? Three months is a red hotcakes sellers market. That’s what you’ve been saying fer years!

    1. “New residential real estate figures released this week indicate Pueblo’s market is not showing signs of significant improvement during the first three months of the year. The median sales price fell 4.7% in March and is down 1.3% year to date at $311,000, as sellers continue to offer price reductions to help get their properties sold,”

      This isn’t a sign of improvement? Don’t you just dig how the media will wring their hands over a lack of affordability in housing, yet falling prices aren’t a good thing.

  3. Bibi’s desk side phone: Ring ring.

    Bibi: Hello?

    (Slurred incoherent Biden noises.)

    Bibi (rolls eyes): Joe, put one of your handlers on, please.

    Globalist handler: Hey, boss.

    Bibi: Why does this clown keep calling me?

    Handler: As Biden spirals deeper into dementia, he has moments where he genuinely believes he was legitimately elected as president with 81 million votes, and is leader of the free world.

    (Both men laugh.)

    Bibi: Well remind the senile pedo, again, that my Mossad has the video from Jeffrey Epstein’s Pedo Island showing a Who’s Who of Democrat Party movers & shakers molesting underaged girls. Then remind Nancy Pelosi and the DNC to fall into line, or else.

    Globalist handler: Got it, boss.

    Bibi: Okay, now bring out the gimp.

    (Globalist handler hands phone back to Biden.)

    Bibi: Israel is a sovereign country that doesn’t need your permission to strike back at its enemies. Oh, and lest you forget: who provides 99 percent of the funding for the Democrat Party?

    Biden (befuddled): Who?

    Bibi hangs up.

  4. The median sales price fell 4.7% in March and is down 1.3% year to date at $311,000, as sellers continue to offer price reductions to help get their properties sold, said Dave Anderson, spokersperson for the Pueblo Association of Realtors.

    Pueblo is a gang-infested barrio town. Shack prices have a lot further to fall as a median price of $300K was only possible in a market awash with Yellen Bux funny money.

    1. Pueblo is a gang-infested barrio town.

      And has been for a long time. The only reason to live there was that housing was dirt cheap and it wasn’t too far from Denver, so if you were a retiree and could afford one of the better neighborhoods then it was better than living in a double wide.

      This house was 76K in 2009, now they are asking 290K. which is absurd.

      https://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-detail/72-Hanson-Ln_Pueblo_CO_81001_M13001-53969

      There is nothing redeeming about Pueblo, nothing.

  5. That is going to amount to a huge sticker shock for many owners who have gotten used to waiving their reserves each year.

    The long-deferred financial reckoning day is slouching closer. Be afraid, FBs. Be very afraid.

  6. Get ready for $10 gas, peasants.

    CNBC (4/14/2024):

    “Iran rained a deluge of drones and missiles on Israel on Saturday night in response to a suspected Israeli strike that killed top Iranian officials in Syria, in a deep escalation of Middle East tensions.

    “We will not be able to comment on the claims regarding a strike in Damascus,” an Israeli foreign ministry spokesperson told CNBC by email, adding, “Iran’s attack on Israel on the night of April 14th is a direct attack on a sovereign nation, its use of proxies for the last decades and the destabilizing effect of the Ayatollah regime in the region and beyond must end.”

    https://www.cnbc.com/2024/04/14/israel-says-300-iranian-drones-and-missiles-downed-in-overnight-attack.html

    And don’t forget to pay your federal income taxes by tomorrow, because somebody (that’s YOU!) has to pay for all of this.

    1. Cryptos got dumped hard once word broke of Iran’s missile barrage unleashed against Israel. So much for muh digital gold.

      1. That is a very telling development. You definitely can’t take your crypto with you or hide it out in the yard like gold coins. And it appears the flight to quality move underway is hammering crypto, which it turns out is a risk asset, not a safe haven.

  7. “Currently, Washington state is the only state that provides delinquent tenants a free lawyer to represent them in eviction court. The current back log in King County, according to the Rental Housing Association of Washington, is 6 months.”

    A conspiracy theorists would say it looks like the “progressives” are trying to drive independent landlords out of business so their patrons at Blackstone can buy up their distressed properties for a song, then gouge tenants with monopoly pricing. But surely Fauxahontus and Maxine Waters and the other worthies who oversee our financial system would never tolerate such swindles against renters and small landlords.

  8. Jason Huntley is an RV owner who’s been trying to sell his current model for about a year.

    Sounds like Greedhead Jason needs to start sawin’ and slashin’ until he catches down to the current market value. Gosh, I sure hope missiles flying around the Middle East don’t mean more pain at the pump for RV owners.

  9. The globalist scum media informs us that “The West” must remember how to fight. Sorry, globalist scum, but no self-respecting white male is going to join woke DEI militaries so they can spend their military career walking on eggshells to avoid offending minorities and females, while being systematically discriminated against when it comes time for promotions and opportunities to advance.

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/west-must-remember-fight-may-180000719.html?

    1. The left just cannot accept that they have alienated the men they need the most in the armed forces. They can send all their lesbians of color and trans-whatevers to fight in the middle east. We’ll see how that goes.

  10. means that large numbers of condominium owners across the state are going to have tremendous difficulty affording homes that were affordable just a year or two ago. Without intervention from the state, many people are going to lose their homes to foreclosure actions
    I can only imagine the sob stories come 2025 & 2026. gonna be ugly in FL.

  11. Warmists gonna warm.

    The Guardian — ‘Grownup’ leaders are pushing us towards catastrophe, says former US climate chief (4/14/2024)

    “We are slowed down by those who think of themselves as grownups and believe decarbonisation at the speed the climate community calls for is unrealistic,” said Todd Stern, who served as a special envoy for climate change under Barack Obama, and helped negotiate the 2015 Paris agreement.

    “They say that we need to slow down, that what is being proposed [in cuts to greenhouse gas emissions] is unrealistic,” he told the Observer. “You see it a lot in the business world too. It’s really hard [to push for more urgency] because those ‘grownups’ have a lot of influence.”

    But Stern said the speed of take-up of renewable energy, its falling cost, and the wealth of low-carbon technology now available were evidence that the world could cut emissions to net zero by 2050. “Obviously it’s difficult – we’re talking about enormous change to the world economy – but we can do it,” he said.

    Leaders who claimed to be grownups by saying the pace of action had to be slowed had to be honest about the alternatives, he said. Just as political leaders took swift action to prevent the spread of Covid-19 in 2020, so must they confront the consequences of slowing climate action now.

    All hard questions of this magnitude should be considered by way of a ‘compared to what’ analysis. The monumental dangers [the climate crisis] poses warrant the same kind of ‘compared to what’ argument when leaders in the political and corporate worlds balk at what needs to be done.”

    https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2024/apr/14/grownup-leaders-are-pushing-us-towards-catastrophe-says-former-us-climate-chief

    Decarbonisation?

    YOU are they carbon they want to reduce.

    1. The fact that China and India are the top carbon contributors and that their footprints are still growing is irrelevant to these scammers. Even if it was possible for the US to become net zero, it wouldn’t make a difference.

  12. “Obviously it’s difficult – we’re talking about enormous change to the world economy – but we can do it,” he said.

    Is this one of these fools who fly around in private jets lecturing everyone on climate change

    1. Is this one of these fools who fly around in private jets lecturing everyone on climate change
      The “funny part” is, this is absolutely true.

    2. “Obviously it’s difficult – we’re talking about enormous change to the world economy – but we can do it,” he said.

      The enormous change being the global resurgence of abject poverty and with it widespread death through a global famine.

      Just because something is doable doesn’t mean it should be done.

    3. Is this one of these fools who fly around in private jets lecturing everyone on climate change

      And his house will be:
      One or more mansions
      With heating and A/C
      A kitchen well stocked with beef
      Each with several cars, including one or more limos
      Flies his family and pets everywhere on private jets.

      This people make the Soviet apparatchiks and nomenklatura with their weekend dachas and Volga sedans look downright frugal.

      1. Just like a watermelon, green on the outside, red on the inside.

        And remember, kidz, it’s okay to kill communists.

  13. A reader sent these in:

    Adam Neumann’s back with Flow, his new multi-family community concept after WeWork. This “vertical kibbutz” in Miami might just redefine living spaces.

    https://twitter.com/benitoz/status/1778635173606883700

    House across the street is giving up.
    Fire @ his job, employer let him & half of staff go, he’s @ McDonalds.
    She got Wuhan 2x, let go by Walmart, now working daycare.
    He says that maintenance costs killed them. Have to shower @ relatives home until move into subsidized apartment.

    https://twitter.com/CrustyTumor/status/1778512770666782774

    I own a 1978 build, 2900 sq, no refrigerated A/C (evap). Averages $400/mo maintenance not including the yard. I’ll need a new roof and stucco shortly, eventually window replacement. 1st time buyers are in for a shock on the true cost of home ownership, and I’m a decent handy man

    https://twitter.com/dudlymohair/status/1778454640675180965

    Live update from subprime mortgage contact

    https://twitter.com/GRomePow/status/1778968708221956113

    “That means short-term rentals might represent anywhere from about 11% to 20% of Miami Beach homes”

    https://twitter.com/JohnWake/status/1779013038726857029

    “Their average debt relief is $25,500+ and average household income is $312,000+.”
    Why are people with $312k/yr in income getting debt relief?
    They can pay their own debt.
    And why are taxpayers getting stuck with the bill?
    Deficit not big enough?
    The age of stupid.

    https://twitter.com/NorthmanTrader/status/1779112573901631600

    It truly is a miracle economy.
    Laid off workers don’t file for unemployment.
    Rising gas prices show as declining prices in reports.
    Debts are forgiven and don’t have to be repaid.
    Unlimited debt spending is stimulative & consequence free.

    https://twitter.com/NorthmanTrader/status/1778722033955655979

    Canada is full tilt ridiculous these days ……🤡🌎

    https://twitter.com/WallStreetSilv/status/1779087133451464856

    Inflation Be Like…

    https://twitter.com/WallStreetSilv/status/1779079580675895645

    A submission to our anonymous news tip line comes from an individual that showed up to work and found this posted on the door. It appears that Webasto (automotive parts supplier) will be laying off 1,600-3,360 employees.

    https://twitter.com/MacroEdgeRes/status/1779203849133101213

    The planned Ritz Carlton, Nashville site has been foreclosed on with a credit bid of just $35mm. The project was slated to cost upwards of $550mm.

    https://twitter.com/MacroEdgeRes/status/1779153229353247103

    Here is a photo of the progress that the project

    https://twitter.com/MacroEdgeRes/status/1779161995788353735

    How do you say ‘’in shambles’’ in mandarin

    https://twitter.com/AlessioUrban/status/1779219936331624815

  14. FLORIDA’S CONDO CRISIS CONTINUES
    Ben Grieco
    2 hours ago

    Florida’s Condo Crisis continues as new laws are set to take hold in the next few months. Owners facing massive assessments are rushing to the exits to avoid the coming onslaught of fees and payments. Meanwhile, buyers are now more cautious then ever as the news of insurance and association problems has gone mainstream.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0RsfOQWfMMI

    17:16.

  15. “New residential real estate figures released this week indicate Pueblo’s market is not showing signs of significant improvement during the first three months of the year. The median sales price fell 4.7% in March and is down 1.3% year to date at $311,000, as sellers continue to offer price reductions to help get their properties sold,…”

    I’m sure incusion of the word ‘not’ in that sentence is a typo. What could be a better improvement than for housing prices to recede from historically unafforable levels and
    realign with end user household budgets?

    1. From wikipeadia: The median income for a household in the city was $29,650, and the median income for a family was $35,620.

      So, the median house should be at most $100K, not $300K. $300K should be what a doctor might pay.

  16. Yahoo Finance
    Bloomberg
    Battered Bond Traders Adopt Show-Me Mode to Avoid More Losses
    Liz Capo McCormick and Michael Mackenzie
    Sun, Apr 14, 2024, 12:00 PM PDT
    6 min read

    (Bloomberg) — Bond investors who were torched yet again by robust economic data now want clear and conclusive proof that Federal Reserve interest-rate cuts are imminent before making any more big bullish wagers.

    US yields surged to their highest levels of the year last week after traders were dealt the nasty surprise of a third straight month of sticky inflation. The market shock was accompanied by a wave of fresh short positions, with a growing camp of investors turning wary. Weak demand at the Treasury’s recent sales of long-term bonds provided even more evidence of bearish sentiment.

    “The shorts have the Treasury market now,” said Andrew Brenner, head of international fixed income at NatAlliance Securities LLC. “We need to have numbers that back up the idea that rates need to be lower.”

    Treasuries snapped their slide Friday and yields fell as tensions in the Middle East spurred a flight to safety. Iran’s unprecedented attack againt Israel on Saturday added to anxieties — and yet, while any further escalation may generate demand for US government debt as a haven, the current economic backdrop is more in line with an environment of higher rates for longer and pressure on bonds. Without convincing evidence of a change, few investors seem willing to swim against that tide.

    After starting the year by pricing in as many as six rate cuts in 2024, or 1.5 percentage points of easing, traders are now doubtful there will even be a half point of reductions. Most Wall Street economists have dialed back forecasts as well, setting up a dour scenario for US yields including a possible repeat of maturities breaching 5% as they did last October.
    …
    https://finance.yahoo.com/news/battered-bond-traders-adopt-show-190000010.html

    1. You will be gaslit, over and over. And unless the usurpers are removed it will never end.

  18. Side work yesterday and today on an addition in the foothills west of Red Rocks.

    Beautiful home on a 3+ acre wooded lot, I wonder what’s going to happen with their insurance in the next decade.

    1. As the Marshall fire showed, you don’t have to be in the wilderness surrounded by timber to be at risk. Ordinary suburban neighborhoods can be quickly destroyed by fires. And remember, the Marshall fire was in December, not during a hot, dry summer day,

    1. I know I am getting sick and tired of hearing this BS. They hate white rurals, then wring their hands when they refuse to enlist to fight their globalist wars.

  20. ‘The Canyon Lakes Homeowners Association in Boynton Beach is initiating foreclosure action against homeowners Marie Krause and Wayne Holder. They allegedly owe $42,763.72 — one of the highest numbers we’ve ever seen when it comes to back payments owed to a non-country club association. The balance due includes a special assessment recorded in October of 2021 for $35,804.46. The home, at 10437 Willow Oaks Trail in Boynton, is valued at $658,868, according to the Palm Beach County Property Appraiser. It was purchased in 2005 for $367,900. HOA fees and dues are not optional in Florida’

    Yer dirty laundry has been noted on the HBB Marie and Wayne.

  21. ‘underappraisals (when the appraised value of a home is less than the agreed-upon sales price) spiked to 15 percent in 2021 and hit 12 percent in 2022 in the United States. How did it happen, and why didn’t we hear more about it at the time?…’if you’ve got an increasing market, we’re always going to be lagging a little behind, and the reason why we were off so much during the pandemic is because we’ve never had prices rise that fast’

    I was one of the few who was asking as the minor respiratory illness happened, where are the appraisers?

    ‘why didn’t we hear more about it at the time?’

    We’ve all become very familiar with complete data propaganda Rick, from UHS, economists, the REIC, Fauci, etc.

  22. ‘Huntley has bought and sold many RVs in his decades-long camping career, and has had one listed online for about a year. He said this is the longest it’s ever taken him to make a sale. ‘It feels to me like the market is pretty flooded’

    It was still cheaper than renting Jason.

    1. ‘People have a little bit less discretionary income,’ said Eleonore Hamm, the association’s president.

      Most people are broke as a joke, especially Canucks, who are watching in horror as the monthly nut on their shanties grows. An RV? They are doing everything they can to keep the shanty, even skipping meals.

  23. ‘Locals had fumed the building work had made their ‘lives hell’ while others described the ‘eyesore’ as ‘like a Travelodge in the middle of a housing estate’ and dubbed it ‘monster mansion…‘Neighbours have been unfair about the house, they call is a monstrosity and I have no reason why. It’s all been very stressful, I have spent my life savings on this house for my family and we have never even lived there. We feel let down by the system. It is a planning nightmare’

    Don’t listen to the haters Singh, you are a winnah!

    ‘Next door neighbour Pat claims her home has been ‘wrecked’ by the unauthorised building and demolition works and has left it ‘unsaleable’

    Let’s not go overboard Pat, you can always sell.

    1. I’ll bet that Pat supports the invasion from Asia 100%, and voted for it, because it was the “right and moral thing to do”.

      Virtue signalling is easy until the third world moves in next door, then reality bites..

  25. EXPOSED: Wisconsin Election Loophole Allows Illegal Aliens to Obtain ID to Vote

    by Jamie White
    April 14th 2024, 1:28 pm

    Wisconsin’s Department of Transportation provides a step-by-step guide for anyone without documentation of any kind to apply for an ID that can be used to vote in the 2024 election.

    The provision is especially notable in the case of illegal aliens who may not have any documents to present but who still want to participate in the presidential election — in violation of U.S. law.

    Wisconsin’s DOT website lays out the petition process for obtaining a “free ID for voting” even without documentation.

    “Getting a free ID for Voting is easy even if you do not have the documentation to get a regular Wisconsin ID!” the website states.

    https://www.infowars.com/posts/exposed-wisconsin-election-loophole-allows-illegal-aliens-to-obtain-id-to-vote/

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