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We Haven’t Had A Bubble Like This Since The Bubble Prior To The 2008-2009 Market Collapse

A report from the Wall Street Journal. “On March 1, New York real-estate agent Peter Ocean thought he had reason to celebrate: His clients accepted an offer of $10.25 million for their four-bedroom co-op in Lenox Hill, which had been on and off the market for more than a year, last asking $10.5 million. Then came President Trump’s trade war. Ocean was riding the subway to his office on March 13 when the couple’s agent called to say her client’s stocks were down 25% and the deal was off. ‘The first words out of his mouth were, ‘Trump f-ked us,’ Ocean said. ‘We’ve been on a wild ride the last two weeks. Buyers are nervous about everything,’ said real-estate agent Aaron Kirman of Christie’s International Real Estate Southern California, who had a roughly $65 million deal fall through in Bel-Air.”

“In Texas, Alan Golightly, and his wife, Angela Wise, had a buyer back out of a deal to purchase their roughly 4,000-square-foot home just outside of Houston. They listed the house for $1.2 million on April 3 and held their first open house on April 5. They had a verbal offer for $1.3 million that night, Alan said. They accepted it on April 6 and were expecting a contract from the buyer’s agent that evening. They never received a contract. On the morning of April 7, the buyer’s agent said her clients had pulled their offer. ‘She said they were just not sure about the market and how everything was shaking out,’ said Alan. ‘It was a little disappointing, but I don’t think we were counting our chickens before they hatched, so to speak.'”

Business Insider. “When Katherine Ann Reniers bought a house in Rockville, Maryland, two years ago, she thought her financial future was mapped out. Reniers, 53, was on track to have served two decades in the federal government in November 2025. At that point, she’d be eligible for a pension that paid out nearly $6,000 a month and covered health insurance, according to documents reviewed by Business Insider. Reniers’ plans abruptly changed in March, when she received emails notifying her that her position at the US Agency for International Development would be abolished on July 1 — five months short of Reniers’ 20-year anniversary. The gap means Reniers won’t be able to receive her full federal pension until she’s 62, and based on federal rules for foreign service retirement, her monthly payments will be an estimated $3,000 less than she planned. ‘I’ve been panicking,’ Reniers, a single mom of two children, told BI. ‘I realized it wasn’t enough to cover my monthly mortgage and medical bills. So I did not take the Fork, and now I’m shooting myself in the foot.'”

“Further, while she could have retired at any time after her 20th anniversary and received that full pension, she won’t be eligible for the smaller pension until she turns 62. Reniers will receive a severance package worth one year’s annual salary and is also planning to sell an apartment she owns in Belgium to help establish a financial safety net for monthly expenses. ‘I’m lucky I have that, so I can make sure to keep my home in Maryland,’ she said. ‘How do I find a job with a similar salary when I’m 53 with a disability?’ ‘I’m so angry right now,’ Reniers said, adding that participating in protests and talking to lawmakers on Capitol Hill is helping ease some of the anxiety. ‘That’s what I want to spend my time on.'”

The Washington Post. “For potential buyers, especially in markets with low inventory, there’s uncertainty as they consider what, for most, is the biggest financial decision of their lives. Are those listing prices strategically low to attract buyers or high to hope for a high-flying bid? ‘Those two approaches and everything else except for one are false flags,’ said Gary Ditto, of the Ditto Group in Bethesda, Maryland. ‘They’re fundamentally flawed.’ Whether markets heat up or cool down, determining ‘fair market value’ is vital. Pricing a property too high, meanwhile, is an iffy gamble as well. ‘As they say in the military: ‘Hope is not a strategy,’ Ditto said.”

“When a job offer meant a move from Alexandria, Virginia, to the Richmond area, Elaine and Lee Bobo initially rented a home. When their landlords sought to return to the home, the Bobos entered the market in 2020. Bobo found an agent who was the sister of a college friend and a lifelong Richmond resident. The market was moving fast. Bobo noticed a listing on a Thursday afternoon. They viewed the property the next morning at 10 and put in an offer. Offers were to be reviewed Sunday, but then came the curveball: a competing offer that was good only through Friday evening. But it took more than timing. They offered a fast closing and other conditions, most importantly an escalation clause. It boosted the price $50,000 above the listing but secured the deal. Ultimately, the purchase decision comes down not to the listing price, but what the eventual buyer is comfortable paying. ‘As long as you feel comfortable with the price where you’re not getting bilked or anything like that,’ Bobo said, ‘all you’re doing is you’re adding value.'”

The Suncoast Spotlight in Florida. “Angie Ramos is concerned. The Sarasota-based Coldwell Banker Realtor has five listings that have sat for months. Buyer interest is at a minimum. And the stock market has been turbulent. ‘We are just flooded with inventory,’ Ramos said. What she’s experiencing isn’t uncommon along the Suncoast. Home values in the region are falling faster than almost anywhere else in the country. Charlotte County recorded the steepest drop of any large county in the nation — those with 50,000 or more inhabitants — with home values falling by 8% over the last year, according to Zillow. Following close behind were Sarasota County, with a 7% decline, Manatee County at 5%, Pinellas County at 4% and Pasco at 3%. Home values in Hillsborough and Polk each dropped by 1.8%. DeSoto County values dropped by 1%.”

“Chris Jones, an economist at the University of South Florida and founder of Florida Economic Advisors, has been warning about unsustainable price growth since 2022, when home values in the region rose by more than 30% in a single year. ‘We’ve just seen prices basically get out of control over the course of the last seven to eight years,’ Jones said. “And you know, we haven’t had a bubble like this since the bubble prior to the 2008-2009 market collapse.'”

“Despite the gloomy data, some in the industry believe a floor is in sight. ‘You can always tell the bottom is coming because you start to see obscene deals go through — deals that probably shouldn’t go through start to happen,’ said Alex Krumm, a past president of Realtors Association of Sarasota and Manatee. ‘You can also tell the top the same way. And we’re seeing those deals right now in real estate.’ Ramos, who became a Realtor about six years ago, said this is the first time she’s experienced a jolt in the market. She’s redoubled her marketing efforts because of the stagnant buyer pool. ‘It’s been tough. There’s no crystal ball,’ she said. ‘People are afraid right now.’ Despite her worries and the challenging market conditions, she’s also banking on the long-term trends. ‘What goes down must go back up,’ she said. ‘It always does.'”

Multifamily Dive on California. “After maturing in December, the loan backing Parkmerced, a 3 million-square-foot, 3,221-unit complex in San Francisco, went into receivership in March, according to a Morningstar Credit report. San Diego-based real estate services provider Douglas Wilson Cos. has been appointed receiver and will take control of property management and operations. Funds were provided to handle operational expenses. Future lender actions may include a foreclosure or an action against the guarantor, according to Morningstar. Last year, property owner Robert Rosania, the founder of San Francisco-based apartment investor Maximus, requested the loan go into servicing, citing low occupancy and a December maturity. The borrower failed to close on a loan modification that had been negotiated, according to Morningstar.”

“In a separate report, data firm Trepp noted the $980 million portion of the $1.5 billion senior loan backing the Parkmerced property in San Francisco went delinquent in March, along with the property’s $275 million mezzanine loan. Parkmerced was built in 1944 and renovated in 2009. The property was appraised at $2.11 billion at securitization in 2019 but fell to $1.39 billion in July 2024. Trepp said Parkmerced had multifamily’s biggest delinquent loan in March. In March 2024, occupancy was reported at 81% at the property, and the debt service coverage ratio was well below breakeven, according to Morningstar Credit. Parkmerced isn’t the only troubled property in Rosania’s portfolio. He is also listed as the owner of The Cove at Tiburon, a 33-building, 283-unit property in Tiburon, California. In January 2025, The Cove at Tiburon’s loan originally went on the watch list due to its pending maturity. The servicer reached out to the borrower multiple times to get an update on its plans once the loan matured, according to Morningstar Credit. However, the borrower has not yet indicated its plans at maturity.”

The Globe and Mail in Canada. “33 Mill St., No. 2604, Toronto. Asking price: $2,425,000 (February, 2025). Selling price: $2,350,000 (March, 2025). Previous selling price: $2,250,000 (June, 2023). The Pure Spirit building in the historic Distillery District has nearly 400 suites, but only small number of them can offer more than 2,000 square feet of living space, such as this two-bedroom unit. Ten potential buyers toured the space and one returned with an offer, though it was $75,000 below the asking price. ‘The larger condos that make sense for a specific buyer type are selling well,’ said agent Alex Obradovich. ‘But the dime-a-dozen, first-time buyer condos are sitting. There are over 2,600 condos for sale downtown right now and the vast majority of them are either studios, one-bedroom or one-bedroom plus dens under 800 square feet.'”

Manchester Evening News in the UK. “The housing estate was built 15 years ago, but one patch of grass with a lonely-looking playground is still costing residents. When the new-build estate off Newbold Hall Drive in Rochdale was completed in 2010, Halima Ali was excited to get a glimpse of her new home. With visions of her fresh property on the doorstep of a park, she was overjoyed to be moving in. But the reality was a stark contrast to what she had imagined. The so-called park turned out to be just a patch of grassland with one slide and a small carousel. In the years since it was created, the area has been left unloved and strewn with litter.”

“Halima said: ‘If you look around at this place would you say it’s well maintained? It looks awful. It’s shocking they can treat their customers this way. Even being in a position to buy a home back then was an amazing feeling, but to be left with all this I would now say avoid buying new-build homes. Buying a new build home was the biggest mistake of my life. It has taken its toll on me and my mental health. Your home is supposed to be your house and your security so what they’re doing is dastardly. It’s a freehold property but we have to pay like a leasehold one. As a freeholder, you don’t want to be in our situation.’ She admits it wasn’t always this way, but feels abandoned by housebuilder Persimmons who handed the control of the site over to a management company once they completed the build. This is what Halima described as ‘the carcass of fleecehold’ – something, she says, is happening up and down the country.”

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  1. ‘The market was moving fast. Bobo noticed a listing on a Thursday afternoon. They viewed the property the next morning at 10 and put in an offer. Offers were to be reviewed Sunday, but then came the curveball: a competing offer that was good only through Friday evening. But it took more than timing. They offered a fast closing and other conditions, most importantly an escalation clause. It boosted the price $50,000 above the listing but secured the deal. Ultimately, the purchase decision comes down not to the listing price, but what the eventual buyer is comfortable paying. ‘As long as you feel comfortable with the price where you’re not getting bilked or anything like that,’ Bobo said, ‘all you’re doing is you’re adding value’

    You Elaine, are a winnah!

    1. Note that in the illustrations of the Post article the Realtor giving “advice” is portrayed as a clown.

      Realtors are liars.

  2. ‘the couple’s agent called to say her client’s stocks were down 25% and the deal was off. ‘The first words out of his mouth were, ‘Trump f-ked us’

    Guberment isn’t baby sitting the stock market anymore Pete.

    1. “is also planning to sell an apartment she owns in Belgium to help establish a financial safety net for monthly expenses”

      Your emergency fund should’ve already been firmly in place. Nothing is certain sis.

      1. She’s been screwing us all for years and every dollar that USAid spent over the last 20 years is borrowed money that the rest of us are on the hook for. All I could think while reading her tale of woe was ‘f*ck off’.

    2. ‘the couple’s agent called to say her client’s stocks were down 25% and the deal was off. ‘The first words out of his mouth were, ‘Trump f-ked us’

      Cry me a river, speculator scum. Your “shareholder value” was built on Chinese slave labor, obscene profits for creepy Orwellian tech corporations, and kow-towing to Pooh Bear & the CCP. Bubble valuations based on the Fed’s inexorable expansion of the money supply were never sustainable in the long run.

      1. her client’s stocks were down 25%
        That’s an insane number to be down. They must be either highly leveraged, or almost solely invested in high risk stocks.
        So yeah, they are speculating in the market.

    3. “Guberment isn’t baby sitting the stock market anymore Pete.”

      The bus isn’t on fire yet, nor are the wheels falling off.

      Give them a little more time.

  3. Real Journalists.

    New York Times — A Devastating Trade Spat With China Shows Few Signs of Abating (4/13/2025):

    “President Trump’s rapidly escalating trade war with China has resulted in eye-watering tariffs on products exchanged between the countries and scrambled prospects for many global businesses that depend on the trade. And there is no end in sight.”

    https://archive.ph/S4PRL

    Washington Post — U.S., China barrel toward the bottom in escalating trade war (4/12/2025):

    “The world’s two largest powers are closer to a full economic break than ever, as President Donald Trump and Chinese leader Xi Jinping refuse to back down in a trade war that has become a high-stakes game of chicken — raising the specter of mass economic fallout and heightened risk of conflict between Washington and Beijing.”

    https://archive.ph/6VD6l

    Links via Archive because we read globalist scum media for FREE.

    1. And while we’re on the subject of globalist scum media…

      Washington Post Editorial Board — What America stands to lose in the trade wars (4/12/2025):

      “This week, as investors raced away from the dollar (it’s down about 8 percent since Inauguration Day) and dumped U.S. Treasury bonds (10-year yields climbed above 4.5 percent), they offered a glimpse of the nightmarish world that awaits if the United States continues to retreat from global leadership after 80 years underwriting stability and prosperity.

      Despite his 90-day pause on new tariffs against every country except China, the president continues to insist that the United States is getting “ripped off” by the rest of the world. He portrays partners in Europe and Asia as parasites who have been freeloading off America. “Our allies have taken advantage of us more than our enemies,” Trump has said …

      Consider that, during the half-century that the United States has run an annual trade deficit, the size of the U.S. economy has quadrupled. (That is adjusted for inflation.) It’s impossible to put a price on how much the U.S. stands to lose by forfeiting its primary position.”

      https://archive.ph/gT6Bb

      Quadrupled, did you say, globalist scum?

      Whose economy? The economy of the Parasite Class. The non-producers, the practitioners of usury, the coin clippers. Their role in the economy / financial ecosystem is that of parasites. They suck the blood of their hosts. They’re not human, they are engorged ticks.

  4. “Reniers, 53, was on track to have served two decades in the federal government in November 2025. At that point, she’d be eligible for a pension that paid out nearly $6,000 a month and covered health insurance”

    How many of you get a lifetime of free $6K a month, or even $3K, plus health insurance just for working for 20 years? Insane.

    “His clients accepted an offer of $10.25 million for their four-bedroom co-op in Lenox Hill, which had been on and off the market for more than a year, last asking $10.5 million. Then came President Trump’s trade war. Ocean was riding the subway to his office on March 13 when the couple’s agent called to say her client’s stocks were down 25% and the deal was off. ‘The first words out of his mouth were, ‘Trump f-ked us,’ Ocean said.”

    The same lefties who go to Bernie/AOC marches can probably spin on a dime and be outraged about this. Won’t someone please think of those poor multimillion dollar shack deals?

    Also, there’s an obvious disconnect between “buying” a $10 million house and having 25% shaved off your portfolio in a week or so (meaning you’re not old money, you’re a gambler and/or you’re not getting competent financial advice.) They might have money somewhere else, but if this was enough to kill the deal…

    1. Welcome to modern America, where you did everything right and yer still $crewed.

      https://comicskingdom.com/sally-forth/2025-04-13

      “we haven’t had a bubble like this since the bubble prior to the 2008-2009 market collapse.”

      Don’t worry, this one’s worse. It includes all the malinvestments and moral hazard from the last bubble that weren’t allowed to liquidate, plus the unprecedented money printing we’ve done since March 2009. Sixteen years.

      Haters of Austrian economics like to call it the “crime and punishment” theory, as if reality cares what dirty names they call it.

  5. The RISE in FAILED Closings in Canada

    Angry Mortgage Podcast

    2 hours ago

    SPECIAL GUEST Mark Morris. A real pleasure to have Legal Closing Founder & Ace Real Estate lawyer on the Show.

    This is the ultimate Deep Dive on the 416 Condo Crash & it’s all the gritty details, we will go all the way back to 2010 & track every step on the road to the Disaster Toronto Dog Crate Condos face in the next 24 months.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Wa_mh2CZLE

    7:33.

    1. My partner just advised me that the simple export rate to Canada for a 4 ounce package thru pirateship/USPS is 17 dollars. This is just one example of how they block us out of their markets, I hope their igloos all melt. For Australia it is 21 dollars. Meanwhile China is shipping things to our door for like 9 cents. Make it make sense.

        1. Colorado and Minnesota have enacted sneaky ‘retail delivery fees’ in addition to sales taxes etc. For Colorado it is 29 cents per order that is bought online and if you return the item the state still keeps the fee. Both Amazon and Ebay collect it for them. Two of the worst blue states of course.

        2. It’s not actually free but it’s very very cheap. The idea itself isn’t bad, but it’s the classification of what is developing that is the real issue.

  6. Does the Fed seem likely to intervene in the Treasury bond market, should market conditions become disorderly?

    1. Financial Times
      US Treasury bonds
      Liquidity worsens in $29tn Treasury market as volatility soars
      10-year US government bond yield rose most this week since 2001
      The 10-year Treasury yield climbed as much as 0.19 percentage points to 4.58 per cent
      Kate Duguid and Harriet Clarfelt in New York and Costas Mourselas in London
      Published Apr 11 2025
      Updated Apr 11 2025, 17:22

      Treasuries dropped on Friday in volatile trading, as market participants warned of growing strains in the $29tn market for US government debt.

      The 10-year Treasury yield climbed as much as 0.19 percentage points to 4.58 per cent on Friday, amid a deepening slump for an asset traditionally considered the global financial system’s premier haven.

      The yield later reversed some of those gains to trade at 4.48 per cent after Boston Fed President Susan Collins told the Financial Times the US central bank “would absolutely be prepared” to deploy its firepower to stabilise financial markets should conditions become disorderly.

    2. What happened on Wednesday?

      Orange tweets “buy stonks now” then two hours later, for 20 minutes, all the insiders pile in, retail dumb money then follows. NASDAQ up 12.16% in a SINGLE DAY.

      1. Edit to add: that 20 minutes was prior to the tariff reversal announcement. Who were the insiders, and who tipped them off?

      1. Americans Brace for Summer of Layoffs
        Published Apr 12, 2025 at 4:00 AM EDT
        By Aliss Higham
        US News Reporter

        The vast majority of Americans are concerned about the prospect of losing their job this year, a new survey found.

        The Great Stay: 2025 State of the Labor Market report, by My Perfect Resume, highlights growing concerns among U.S. workers about job security, economic instability and workplace stress. According to the survey of 1,115 workers, 81 percent fear job loss this year, with 20 percent feeling “much more worried” about finding themselves unemployed in 2025 than they did in 2024.

        The report underscores a workforce increasingly hesitant to make career moves, driven by concerns over layoffs and economic downturns. In fact, 76 percent of workers predict an increase in layoffs this year, while an overwhelming 92 percent are bracing for a possible recession. Some 63 percent believe more businesses will shut down in 2025 compared to last year.

        https://www.newsweek.com/americans-brace-layoffs-jobs-market-2057975

  7. Reniers’ plans abruptly changed in March, when she received emails notifying her that her position at the US Agency for International Development would be abolished on July 1 — five months short of Reniers’ 20-year anniversary.

    USAID never should’ve existed in the first place. Can anyone point to one tangible benefit that ordinary Americans have realized from having billions of their tax dollars squandered all over the globe? Hit the bricks, parasites.

  8. ‘As long as you feel comfortable with the price where you’re not getting bilked or anything like that,’ Bobo said, ‘all you’re doing is you’re adding value.’”

    Who’s going to tell her?

  9. “And you know, we haven’t had a bubble like this since the bubble prior to the 2008-2009 market collapse.’”

    Nothing got fixed & no one was held accountable after the implosion of Housing Bubble 1.0, so here we are once again. Only this time around the Fed has blown its wad with trillions in QE since 2008. Got popcorn?

  10. ‘How do I find a job with a similar salary when I’m 53 with a disability?’

    That sounds like a Katherine problem.

      1. Nobody in the private sector pays you a six-figure salary to pour taxpayers’ money down every corrupt rathole on the planet. The USAID racket is another Compassion, Inc. patronage & graft swindle that has been committing fraud on taxpayers since the Kennedy Administration.

        1. My back of the envelope Calc’s might not be as good as the prof’s but If she’s in FERS she would have had to had made a high 3 salary of around $300,000.00
          Since she’s retiring before 62, her retirement gets reduced 5% for each year under 62, so her 6 grand gets cut by 45%.
          Oxide may be able to chime in, I’ve been out of the loop for a while, that salary seems excessive.

          1. Since she’s retiring before 62

            She now can’t draw retirement until age 62 because she didn’t put in her 20 years. She doesn’t qualify for “full” retirement. The 5%/yr doesn’t seem to apply.

            It might be worth taking a short term job at the post office to make the 20 years.

    1. ‘ ‘I’m so angry right now,’ Reniers said,
      Can we just grow up, seriously? I know it has gotta suck but put on you big girl panties and deal with it. You have 2 homes and a $3,000 pension, you will not get a lot of sympathy from the people who paid your crazy high wages and bennies.

    1. “Ramos, who became a Realtor about six years ago, said this is the first time she’s experienced a jolt in the market.”

      Probably knows nothing about 2008 and has never even heard of any bubbles/busts prior to that.

  11. The property was appraised at $2.11 billion at securitization in 2019 but fell to $1.39 billion in July 2024.

    Fake value created by fake money getting vaporized from the Fed’s asset bubbles. No one could’ve seen it coming.

    1. Tossing the keys and walking away from hundreds of California housing units doesn’t change the fact that the lending was sound, at the time.

      1. Pshaw, Ben “Alex” Jones, Kremlin cat’s-paw out to propagate disinformation about Our Strongest Economy Ever. Those ever-vigilant guardians of our financial system, Yellen the Felon, Fauxahontus, & Maxine Waters, have all testified that loose lending is a thing of the past.

    1. I know a guy who used to teach at at the Air Force Academy. He told me that the fitness standardsfor cadets at the academy have been in free fall for years. I can only imagine how bad it is now.

      1. One of my neighbors is a retired Army Lt Col in the combat arms. He got out in disgust as soon as he became eligible to retire, because as a white male officer, he had to walk on eggshells around females and minorities. If he tried to enforce the abysmally low standards for those cohorts, he was liable to be accused of sexism or discrimination – career-enders given how “woke” the Army has gone since the Clinton Administration. He said flat out that if we go to war against China or Iran, we’ll lose, because of the weak links and unfit leaders & troops at every level of the military.

        1. Everybody with a combat arms MOS, pilots, etc., needs to conform to a height and weight limit such that two medics are able to carry them on a Stokes litter.

  12. Don’t “Florida” And Find Out | Builders Slash Home Prices Across SWFL

    Ben Grieco

    16 hours ago

    Florida selling season has now cooled off. Home sellers and builders alike are slashing prices across the Southwest region. Buyers have taken the drivers seat in many markets leaving some owners shocked at their willingness to walk away on move onto the next property for sale.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cqkMxFpPdK4

    15 minutes. At 10 minutes he starts a shack tour.

  13. Tech CEO allegedly defrauded investors lured by AI of $40 million, feds say

    A fintech startup that raised $40 million based on the premise of its artificial intelligence capabilities was fueled by human labor, allegedly defrauding investors lured by the new technology of millions, federal prosecutors said this week in a statement.

    Albert Saniger, 35, the former CEO and founder of nate in 2018, who is from Barcelona, Spain, was indicted in the Southern District of New York for engaging in a scheme to allegedly defraud investors and making false statements about his company’s AI capabilities.

    Nate, an e-commerce company, launched the nate app that claimed to streamline the online shopping checkout process via a single AI-powered tap option. But the app was not powered by advanced AI technology at all, according to the indictment.

    With the promise of custom-built “deep learning models” that would allow the app to directly purchase goods on product pages in fewer than three seconds, Saniger raised over $40 million. While instructing employees to keep nate’s reliance on overseas workers secret, he pitched investors an AI-driven product capable of 10,000 daily transactions.

    Instead, the app allegedly relied heavily on overseas workers in two different countries who manually processed transactions, mimicking what users believed was being done by automation. Saniger, meanwhile, allegedly told investors and the public that the transactions were being completed by AI.

    “Saniger allegedly abused the integrity associated with his former position as the CEO to perpetuate a scheme filled with smoke and mirrors,” the U.S. Justice Department said in a statement.

    In the technology’s absence, Saniger allegedly relied heavily on hundreds of workers at a call center in the Philippines, court documents said. When a deadly tropical storm struck the country in October 2021, the indictment said, nate established a new call center in Romania to handle the backlog of customer services. Investors were likely never exposed to the lull in transactions because Saniger directed that transactions by investors be prioritized to avoid suspicion.

    The aftermath of the company’s fallout in 2023, left investors with near-total losses, the indictment said.

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technology/tech-ceo-allegedly-defrauded-investors-lured-by-ai-of-40-million-feds-say/ar-AA1COnHE

  14. Running the numbers

    Andean Medjedovic was 18 years old when he made a decision that would irrevocably alter the course of his life.

    In the fall of 2021, shortly after completing a master’s degree at the University of Waterloo, the math prodigy and cryptocurrency trader from Hamilton had conducted a complex series of transactions designed to exploit a vulnerability in the code of a decentralized finance platform. The manoeuvre had allegedly allowed him to siphon approximately US$16.5-million in digital tokens out of two liquidity pools operated by the platform, Indexed Finance, according to a U.S. court document.

    Indexed Finance’s leaders traced the attack back to Mr. Medjedovic, and made him an offer: Return 90 per cent of the funds, keep the rest as a so-called “bug bounty” – a reward for having identified an error in the code – and all would be forgiven. Mr. Medjedovic would then be free to launch his career as a white hat, or ethical, hacker.

    Mr. Medjedovic didn’t take the deal. His social media posts hinted, without overtly stating, that he believed that because he had operated within the confines of the code, he was entitled to the funds – a controversial philosophy in the world of decentralized finance known as “Code is Law.” But instead of testing that argument in court, Mr. Medjedovic went into hiding. By the time authorities arrived on a quiet residential street in Hamilton to search his parents’ townhouse less than two months later, Mr. Medjedovic had moved out, taking his electronic devices with him.

    Then, roughly two years later, he struck again, netting an even larger sum – approximately US$48.4-million – by conducting a similar exploit on another decentralized finance platform, U.S. authorities allege.

    Mr. Medjedovic, now 22, faces five criminal charges – including wire fraud, attempted extortion and money laundering – according to a U.S. federal court document that was unsealed earlier this year. If convicted, he could be facing decades in prison.

    The leaders of Indexed Finance didn’t know Mr. Medjedovic’s age when they publicly accused the teen of exploiting their platform.

    “Because we knew he was a master’s student, we believed that he was older,” Laurence Day, a resident of Leeds, in Britain, later stated in an affidavit.

    Master’s students are typically in their 20s. But Mr. Medjedovic, who goes by Andy, was not a typical student.

    A slight kid with dirty blond hair, blue eyes and mischievously arched brows, Mr. Medjedovic grew up in Hamilton with his parents and his younger brother, Denean, and attended Westmount Secondary School, a highly-rated institution known for its unconventional self-directed approach to learning. In 2017, he was part of a four-student Westmount team that took the top spot in a regional coding contest.

    Having completed high school at an accelerated pace, Mr. Medjedovic was just shy of his 15th birthday when he started his undergraduate studies in pure mathematics at the University of Waterloo. He finished what is typically a four-year bachelor’s program in a brisk three years, then breezed through a master’s degree in a single year.

    On his CV, later filed in Ontario Superior Court, he listed his Putnam Competition score as 39 – a result in an annual North American undergraduate math contest that, if accurate, would render him a “math genius,” according to Indexed Finance’s U.S. lawyer, Jason Gottlieb. (The competition is known for its difficulty; while the maximum score is 120, the median score is often in the low single digits.) Mr. Medjedovic received scholarships and came close to winning a cash prize in a university math contest called the Bernoulli Trials. He also listed several rather exalted hobbies on his CV: meditation, playing blindfolded chess and crypto trading.

    In the summer of 2021, as he was wrapping up his studies, Mr. Medjedovic successfully competed in two hacking contests run by an organization called Code Arena, according to court documents. During the competitions, participants hunt for weaknesses in the code governing decentralized autonomous organizations, or DAOs, which are structures deliberately designed without a central authority that utilize a digital ledger known as a blockchain.

    Then, on Oct. 14, Mr. Medjedovic allegedly unleashed his skills on Indexed Finance, a platform that allows users to trade multiple virtual currencies through a single token, similar to a mutual fund with many stocks in it.

    None of the allegations have been proven in court. Mr. Medjedovic did not provide a response to the allegations against him when reached online by The Globe and Mail.

    In the days following the attack, Indexed Finance, its lawyer and even one of the founders of the hacking contest implored Mr. Medjedovic to return the tokens.

    Mr. Gottlieb praised Mr. Medjedovic on social media as a “young, bright guy” with a “bright future.” But just because he was good at math didn’t mean that he understood the law, Mr. Gottlieb said. In an e-mail sent to Mr. Medjedovic’s personal address, he cautioned the teen that the stolen tokens were easy to trace and would be difficult to access. “Don’t screw up your whole future over money you can’t ever touch anyway,” Mr. Gottlieb wrote.

    But Mr. Medjedovic wouldn’t budge. He didn’t deny that he was behind the exploit – in fact, he took credit for it on the social media platform X – but he implied that his actions were lawful.

    “If Indexed wants to insinuate that I did something wrong and resort to name-calling, LOL,” he wrote, later adding: “You were out-traded. There is nothing you can do about that.”

    Not everyone agrees. “Code is not law. Law is law,” Mr. Gottlieb wrote in a lengthy thread to Mr. Medjedovic on X in late October, 2021. “And what you did was not a ‘clever trade.’ It was market manipulation. It’s illegal. And people go to prison for it.”

    The Code-is-Law argument has never been tested in a Canadian court. But south of the border, where Mr. Medjedovic has been criminally charged, it hasn’t held up under scrutiny. In April, 2024, a New York jury criminally convicted trader Avraham Eisenberg of fraud and commodities manipulation for exploiting a decentralized cryptocurrency exchange called Mango Markets for US$110-million. Part of Mr. Eisenberg’s defence was that what he hadn’t “hacked” the platform; he’d simply taken advantage of its weaknesses.
    But he failed to show up at the Toronto courthouse at 361 University Ave. on Dec. 21, as ordered by the judge, or to put the disputed tokens into custody.

    Benjamin Bathgate, one of the lawyers representing Cicada, said it’s not unusual for someone who has successfully exploited a decentralized finance platform to replicate the attack.

    “A bad actor not brought to justice and held to account for one act of fraud will surely commit another,” Mr. Bathgate, a partner at WeirFoulds LLP, said in an e-mail.

    “Underground blockchain geniuses from Canada, the U.S. or otherwise are exploiting digital contracts, stealing user investments, and lowering the reliability and potentially the future viability of the US$20-billion decentralized marketplace. The question becomes with what vigour our criminal justice systems will pursue them when they go offline and come up for air,” he added.

    Mr. Medjedovic, meanwhile, seems hopeful that his case will be dropped. Since U.S. President Donald Trump’s inauguration, regulators have pulled back on cryptocurrency-related investigations and lawsuits.

    “The silver lining to all of this is that Trump promised to stop the persecution of crypto people,” Mr. Medjedovic wrote on Signal. “Like, half of the people involved in this resigned/stepped down recently.”

    https://www.theglobeandmail.com/business/economy/article-math-prodigy-cryptocurrency-enforcement-united-states/

    1. The whole crypto space is one giant fraud. If the Fed ever gets its CBDC slave tokens, the future for the proles will be far darker than anything George Orwell could’ve imagined.

    1. Boomers are dying off at a rate of 10,000 a day. I’m guessing libtard Boomers comprise 99.9% of Time and Newsweek’s subscriber base. Nobody under 55 is going to pay for globalist propaganda & DNC talking points.

    2. To any garbage legacy talentless scribblers trawling through the HBB to plagiarize Ben’s work: here’s a song dedication for ya. Real Journalist hacks are obsolete and utterly discredited, and the day is coming when you’ll be summarily dismissed from your failing globalist scum media outlets like your ideological comrades at the former Soviet Pravda and Trud propaganda outlets.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pXP1MSFwMnc

  15. Everybody’s All-American

    FBI: Wisconsin Teen Murdered Parents in ‘Extremist’ Plot to Fund Assassination of President Trump

    AWR Hawkins
    13 Apr 2025

    A 17-year-old Wisconsin teen allegedly killed his parents in pursuit of the “financial means and autonomy” to assassinate President Trump, the FBI revealed.

    Court documents show the 17-year-old was part of a “satanic cult” which has “strong anti-Judaism anti-Christian and anti-western ideologies,” WISN reported Friday.

    Investigators also found a manifesto which “described a call to assassinate President Trump, make and detonate bombs and carry out other terrorist attacks.”

    CNN noted that charges against the 17-year-old include two counts of first-degree murder and “two counts of hiding a corpse.” He also faces federal charges tied to the planned assassination.

    https://www.breitbart.com/2nd-amendment/2025/04/13/fbi-teen-murdered-parents-in-extremist-plot-to-fund-assassination-of-president-trump/

  16. Dapper Detective
    @Dapper_Det

    BREAKING: 2 men tied to Tren de Aragua kidnapped a woman, used a power drill to drill into her hands to get access to her bank accounts, then shot her in Burien.

    Kevin Daniel Sanabria Ojeda and Alexander Moises Arnaez-Gutierrez, charged with kidnapping, robbery & attempt murder.

    10:33 AM · Apr 12, 2025

    https://x.com/Dapper_Det/status/1911065255108542562

  17. ‘I realized it wasn’t enough to cover my monthly mortgage and medical bills. So I did not take the Fork, and now I’m shooting myself in the foot’

    I call it the fook Kathy. It even sounds better: ‘So I did not take the Fork, and now I’m shooting myself in the fook.’

  18. ‘You can always tell the bottom is coming because you start to see obscene deals go through — deals that probably shouldn’t go through start to happen…You can also tell the top the same way. And we’re seeing those deals right now in real estate’

    Obscene a$$ poundings, I’ll have to add that as a tag Alex. You know, bottom pickers end up with stinky fingers.

  19. ‘The larger condos that make sense for a specific buyer type are selling well…But the dime-a-dozen, first-time buyer condos are sitting. There are over 2,600 condos for sale downtown right now and the vast majority of them are either studios, one-bedroom or one-bedroom plus dens under 800 square feet’

    The vast majority are 500 square feet or less Alex, with ridiculous layouts.

  20. ‘If you look around at this place would you say it’s well maintained? It looks awful. It’s shocking they can treat their customers this way. Even being in a position to buy a home back then was an amazing feeling, but to be left with all this I would now say avoid buying new-build homes. Buying a new build home was the biggest mistake of my life. It has taken its toll on me and my mental health. Your home is supposed to be your house and your security so what they’re doing is dastardly. It’s a freehold property but we have to pay like a leasehold one. As a freeholder, you don’t want to be in our situation’…This is what Halima described as ‘the carcass of fleecehold’

    It was still way cheaper than renting Halima.

  21. Stephen Miller: ‘China would be very wise to pursue the path of de-escalation’

    Fox News

    1 hour ago

    White House Deputy Chief of Staff Stephen Miller on the administration’s tariff policy regarding electronics, the 90-day tariff pause, and the threat China poses to economic and national security.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KjIlj7CQJYg

    8 minutes.

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