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There’s A Willingness To Negotiate Because You’d Rather Get Something Than Nothing

A report from Local News 10 in Florida. “Patricia Guerrero said she is working full time to pay the mortgage of a home that she is supposed to be renting. Instead, she said there are squatters with a fraudulent lease, and the coronavirus pandemic’s eviction moratorium is protecting them. Guerrero said Miami police officers told her it was a civil matter. Guerrero said she has been in this situation for more than nine months now. She bought the house in 2018, renovated it, and when her tenants moved out, she sold it. There was money in escrow, but in April, right before closing, squatters moved in.”

“Guerrero said the situation with the squatters is affecting her health because she is so stressed. She is not sure how long she will be able to afford to pay the mortgage before she has to go into foreclosure. ‘I am a landlord and I don’t have any rights,’ Guerrero said. ‘They do have rights; I don’t. This is not nonpayment of rent; this is a squatter.'”

The New York Daily News. “The newest New York State anti-eviction laws brought much needed relief to tenants, but some mom-and-pop landlords worry those measures may ultimately leave them holding the bag. Sharon Redhead owns a 19-unit apartment building in Brownsville, Brooklyn, and said some of the renters living there need the help — but not all of them. ‘There are tenants who are unemployed who are paying full or partial rent, and there are tenants who work who aren’t paying any rent at all,’ she said.”

“According to Redhead, tenants in one apartment haven’t paid anything since March 2019, even though one of them runs two catering businesses out of the apartment. ‘I see her on a weekly basis loading up her BMW to take her baked goods,’ said Redhead, who also works as an accountant. ‘And her husband is a union employee.'”

“Clarence Hamer, who owns a two-family home in Brownsville, said one of his tenant’s failure to pay rent has left him behind on mortgage, gas and tax bills. Hamer, who works for the city, estimates he’s owed $46,000 in back rent from the tenant, who he says has been illegally subletting rooms in the apartment during the pandemic. ‘I would like her to move immediately,’ Hamer told the Daily News. ‘She’s basically getting over.'”

“Ketsia Magnan, who lives in a two-family in Canarsie that she shares with a tenant, said she agrees with the spirit of the laws, but that they shouldn’t protect people who have the means to pay all or part of their rent and don’t. ‘It’s not like I’m some big real estate mogul,’ she said. ‘The house wasn’t free. It wasn’t given to me. I have to work for everything I have to pay for. It’s not free money.'”

“Magnan claims she is owed about $12,000 in rent dating back to March 2020 and said she wouldn’t be so frustrated with the situation if her tenant was out of work. ‘I know she’s working because she gets her pay stubs in the mail,’ said Magnan, a mother of two. ‘It’s just plain and simple taking advantage of the situation.'”

The Chicago Tribune in Illinois. “In Chicago, rents dropped by almost 12% in December compared to December 2019, according to Apartment List. Chicago was among the most severely impacted cities when it came to falling rents, said Rob Warnock, who co-authored the study. ‘It’s really a lot of these denser, really strong job centers across the country — Chicago, San Francisco, Seattle, Boston — where we saw the rent prices really collapse the most dramatically in 2020,’ he said.”

“San Francisco was hit the hardest, with rents dropping 26.7% since March. New York City; Washington, D.C.; and Minneapolis were also in the top 10. As vacancies rise, landlords around Chicago are doing everything they can to keep tenants in the building, and that includes cutting rent. Some landlords are offering up to five months of free rent for new leasees, said Ericka Rios, cofounder of Downtown Apartment Company. Others are reducing application fees, offering free parking or cleaning services and cash incentives for those who sign fast, Rios said.”

“Some landlords are cutting expenses wherever they can, said Mark Durakovic, principal of Kass Management Inc., a third-party residential property management company that oversees 10,000 residences in the Chicagoland area. And those cuts include his company’s services. ‘In some cases, landlords are being left with that decision to lower the rent just to be able to generate some income, which is better than no income,’ he said.”

“Carolyn Anavi has helped landlords list and rent their properties since 2008. Her company has had landlords ask about selling their buildings entirely to get out of the business over the past year. Many live in other states, or have full-time jobs while managing a property. ‘It’s just becoming the last straw,’ Anavi said. ‘When you’re losing month after month of income, it’s a huge hit to your family.'”

From KRIS TV in Texas. “A new report shows the median price for a one-bedroom apartment in the Coastal Bend is $915 per month. Due to economic uncertainty during the pandemic, some landlords say they are willing to negotiate on the price of rent. In Corpus Christi, the rent growth since March has fallen which can lead to price negotiations between landlord and tenant. ‘There’s a willingness to negotiate because you’d rather get something than nothing as a landlord,’ said realtor Jacob Bocanegra.”

From WTOP News. “The pandemic has fueled a rise in apartment vacancies in the D.C. metro’s urban core, and in large cities across the country, and rising vacancies have translated into falling rental rates. The drop has been significant. Apartment List ranks both the District and Arlington County, Virginia, among the 10 rental markets in the nation where rents have fallen the most.”

“The median rent for a two-bedroom apartment in the District is currently $1,570 a month, down 14.4% from a year ago, and 15.3% since March, according to Apartment List. That ranks D.C. No. 5 on the list of biggest drops. The median two-bedroom rent in Arlington is currently $2,030, down 13.7% from a year ago, and 14.8% since March, ranking Arlington No. 8.”

“‘D.C., Northern Virginia and the greater D.C. metro area generally has for a long time been one of the most expensive rental markets in the country. Right now, we’ve got a lot of folks who are facing new financial hardships as a result of the pandemic. A lot of folks are just unable to afford these sky-high rents, and we’re really seeing a sharp drop-off in demand,’ said Chris Salviati, housing economist at Apartment List.”

The San Francisco Chronicle in California. “At this time in 2020, Bay Area real estate experts were looking at a bright year ahead. But in March, the market ground to a swift halt and an uncertain rest of the year loomed. As buyers sought more space, especially private space, single-family homes in both San Francisco and surrounding suburbs soared in price and demand, while rental averages plummeted and downtown condos languished.”

“If you’re in the market for a condo in San Francisco, that means you could get a great deal. ‘You can buy a condo for 2018 prices right now,’ Redfin chief economist Daryl Fairweather said. ‘I think we will see many more condo listings next year and prices could come down even more this year. As they come down next year, it could be the opportunity for those that have been wanting to buy for a while and were previously priced out.'”

“She said mom-and-pop landlords may be more likely to sell their rentals after the tumultuous year, increasing inventory further and opening up spaces for even those simply interested in an investment property. ‘Condo prices are going to drop enough that people will see a good investment opportunity. They’ll be able to get in at a good price,’ Fairweather said.”

“Experts agree we’re not at the bottom yet, but we’re close. ‘There are still more renters moving out of the Bay Area than moving in,’ Zumper analyst Neil Gerstein said. ‘What we’re watching as things return to normal: Will renters return or will the Bay Area cities become discounted enough that new people want to come in and take advantage of those prices? No matter what, I don’t think we’re at the bottom yet. Prices will continue to decrease in the short term. I wouldn’t say we’re at the bottom yet, but we could be nearing it. It’s a great time to make the Bay Area your home. The city is certainly at a discount.'”

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  1. I just spent two weeks travelling around Florida. I didn’t meet any other Canadians on vacation. I met loads of people from Ohio, Michigan and Pennsylvania. Some were transplants. Some were there for a weekend – for a few days freedom.

    Some observations:

    The Holiday Inn Express and Extended stay hotels in Fort Lauderdale seemed to have fairly high occupancy. Elbo room and other restaurants were busy in Fort Lauderdale, although not at the levels they were pre-pandemic.

    Uber drivers said that many new hotels in Miami were closed. Miami beach appealed to a younger liberal crowd – who aren’t travelling.

    Although Broward County leans left the people the folks who go to the bars and restaurants in Fort Lauderdale were almost universally right-wing. If you find left-wingers nauseating this is the time to travel – you’ll be hard pressed to meet any. It goes without saying that I saw almost universally generous tipping of bar staff. I met one left-winger during my trip while on an afternoon tour boat in Key West. I said that Governor DeSantis was terrific and he didn’t want anything to do with me after that. I felt like reminding him that the only reason that we were on the boat was because of the courageous Governor.

    Key West was busy, although not as busy as before of course. The cruise ships aren’t stopping there for an afternoon anymore. The travellers I met in Key West were generally well-off. I had a great conversation with a surgeon from Chicago who set up practice in New Mexico. He really disliked Democrats. This was a common theme over happy hour drinks. There’s no way Biden got 80 million votes.

    The folks living and working in Key West were not well-off. I bought a couple of drinks for a friendly local who was about 62 and rented out the spare bedrooms in his house to Argentine strippers. He was impressed by my 3-year old, cracked iPhone 8. Based on our conversations my guess is that he will be in a struggle to keep his home.

    To save money on my last two nights in Fort Lauderdale I stayed at the cheapest hotel on HotWire – a 2-star dive – $80 per night. The parking lot was filled with mostly nice cars the next morning. Some of the residents looked quite dodgy but many others looked down on their luck.

    1. Want to hear more about the Argentinean strippers, lol.

      Leftists love lockdowns and face diapers. They’re lazy and work as little as possible plus most are butt ugly so they’re in paradise right now with this Plandemic nonsense.

      Japanese researcher familiar with leftist tactics analyzed video from the capitol shooting last week and identified agent provocateurs operating. Very similar in style to other attacks in the summer.

  2. ‘I am a landlord and I don’t have any rights…They do have rights; I don’t. This is not nonpayment of rent; this is a squatter’

    I’d like to make a point about violence. Every action of the state is violence. Don’t pay a traffic ticket: ultimately the action will result in violence, at the point of a gun. Don’t shut down your business, violence. Squatters have zero rights to a property. Yet we see the state, under threat of violence, creating rights that don’t exist while at the same time denying basic constitutional rights to property and ones lively hood.

    So let these communists keep it up. You are illegitimate. What you are doing is violently illegal. And we aren’t going to stand for it. We see right through you, and will plow you over and bury you.

      1. Salon dot com advocates doxxing (1/11/2021):

        “Parler, a so-called “free speech” social media platform that is popular among President Donald Trump’s supporters and others on the far-right, went down on Sunday after Apple and Google removed the company’s app from their services and Amazon Web Services refused to continue hosting it.

        But its demise may be short-lived, as a Washington State-based web hosting company called Epik has evidently agreed to host the site. Epik serves as a safe haven for other far right sites, such as the notorious right-leaning social network Gab.

        Even if it does not ever return, Parler’s data archive is poised to be used to help ID some of the rioters at the Capitol last week. A hacker who goes by @donk_enby was able to archive roughly 99 percent of the content from Parler before it was kicked offline, much of which she described as “very incriminating” against the people who posted it. She explained to Gizmodo that she began by downloading every Parler post from January 6, the day that Trump fomented a coup attempt in Washington which culminated in the Capitol Riot. She is believed to have reverse-engineered Parler’s iOS app to find a web address that the company uses to retrieve data on an internal level, later deciding to archive every post that appeared on the site after Amazon said it would no longer serve as a host.”

        Note that at the time of its founding, this was a website that published articles by both David Horowitz and Camille Paglia (millennial bedwetters may struggle with the cognitive dissonance of that) and has now become just another globalist rag.

        When its owners sold the site in 2019, they only got $5 million for it, all of which on the content of its archives, a confession that its current content is essentially worthless…

        1. I met a leftist whose college prof girlfriend got doxxed by some local non leftists. He was livid. I gently reminded him that it was the left who started with the doxxing,

          1. It is just a matter of time before some enterprising “citizen journalist” aka “social justice warrior” generates a fake list of “white supremacists” from posts made anywhere on the internet, and publicizes this under the guise of data scrubbed off the internet and repackaged. You read it here first!

    1. Oh, yer too harsh Ben!

      “The MAGA terrorists should be prosecuted like any other terrorists who have attacked our homeland and be given the same severity of consequences. They should also be tried for treason. No mercy.” — Meghan McCain January 11, 2021′

      ‘McCain wasn’t done dishing out her provocative takes on the controversy, however. Hours later, she responded to reports that the bare-chested man photographed posing on the speaker’s chair in the Senate. “He should be fed dog food as far as I’m concerned,” she quipped.’

      ‘There were plenty of like-minded Americans who applauded her. The idea of sending the rioters to Gitmo was the “first smart thing she’s ever said,”wrote one Twitter user. Her dog food recommendation also received cheers, with some even arguing that dog food was “too good” for Chansley. ‘Dog food is too good for him. He should be treated like the kids in ICE detention facilities – no change of clothes for days, no access to bathrooms or toothbrushes, and one blanket on a cot.’ — Kealy G January 12, 2021′ ‘Maybe rat 🐀 food. Dog food is now high quality and expensive! — Liborio Millares (@LiboRealtor) January 12, 2021’

      You can see where we’re going, and they chose this path, not us.

      1. This is a bedwetting article.

        Don’t Just ‘Move On.’ Here’s How To Talk About The Capitol Riot At Work (1/11/2021):

        “It’s a form of white privilege to believe things can be business as usual following the mob assault on the U.S. Capitol.

        Repercussions from that day may be following you to your job, too. Days and weeks after the event, you and others may be haunted by the horror of what you witnessed and experienced. Even if someone wasn’t physically present at the Capitol, they could be experiencing trauma vicariously with symptoms like headaches, withdrawal, hypervigilance and anger, all while at their desk. That’s how trauma works: Memories from that day can spill over into the present at the most innocuous suggestion. And just because someone looks OK on the outside does not mean they are OK.”

        Note that the clinical term for involuntary defecation is encopresis.

        1. “It’s a form of white privilege to believe things can be business as usual following the mob assault on the U.S. Capitol.”
          Repercussions from that day may be following you to your job, too. Days and weeks after the event, you and others may be haunted by the horror of what you witnessed and experienced. ”

          what ?? I would hate to be in charge of employees like this that’s for sure.

          1. Nobody on the left seems too traumatized by what they witnessed this summer from Portland and Seattle. Why would DC be more traumatic than that?

          2. PBS top lawyer says gov should build ‘enlightenment camps’ and remove children from Trump supporting homes (1/12/2021):

            “Kids who are growing up, know nothing but Trump, for four years, you’ve got to wonder what they’re (Trump supporting children) going to be like, ” Beller told the undercover journalist. “They’ll (Trump supporters) be raising a generation of intolerant, horrible people – horrible kids.”

            Beller suggests removing the children from parents who supported Trump and then sending them to enlightenment camps.


          3. PBS top lawyer says gov should build ‘enlightenment camps’ and remove children from Trump supporting homes (1/12/2021):

            This guy is a NAZI.

          4. Why would DC be more traumatic than that?

            Because they weren’t their shock troopers, and narcissistic lawmakers felt threatened? Never mind that only a few windows were broken, no fires were set, and the gift shop wasn’t looted.

          5. Have some more:

            “Tuesday, Washington Post columnist and MSNBC contributor Eugene Robinson referred to President Donald Trump’s supporters as “members of a cult” that he says need to be “reprogrammed.”

            Robinson, on “Morning Joe,” asked New York Times writer and 1619 Project” creator Nikole Hannah-Jones how to start and complete the “process” of deprogramming the Trump supporters.

            “[T]he difference between the white citizens’ councils and the Klan back in the days of Jim Crow, and you know, Klan was lower-income, white citizens’ councils were the Josh Hawleys and Ted Cruzes of their day. But so, here’s the situation, though. … There are millions of Americans, almost all white, almost all Republicans who somehow need to be deprogrammed. It’s as if they are members of a cult, the Trumpist cult, and they have to be deprogrammed. Do you have any idea how we start that process, much less complete it?” Robinson asked.


          6. Why would DC be more traumatic than that?
            The difference is in your mental filters and your cherished opinions. Nearly every human alive today has them, except for the truly enlightened, along with (perhaps) the deeply comatose.

          7. Follow up post, published a few hours ago:

            “A lawyer for PBS resigned Tuesday after being caught describing President Donald Trump as “close to Hitler” in a right-wing sting operation.

            Michael Beller, a contracts lawyer in PBS’ general counsel office, was recorded offering political opinions in what appeared to be a barroom conversation with a woman. It was released Tuesday by Project Veritas, a conservative group known for using undercover methods to reveal supposed liberal bias.

            Beller is heard saying it was “great” that coronavirus cases were spiking in red states because they might infect Trump voters and suggested Republican voters should have their children put in re-education camps.”


          8. “It was released Tuesday by Project Veritas, a conservative group known for using undercover methods to reveal supposed liberal bias.”

            Wow…took the bait! 🙂

      2. She and the rest of her scumbag family need to be flown to syria and harvest the fruits of their Dad who helped Isis destroy that country. Where is Isis now? Trump put an end to that nonsense ricky-tick.

    2. “Yet we see the state, under threat of violence, creating rights that don’t exist while at the same time denying basic constitutional rights to property and ones lively hood.”

      – Government is (supposed) to be there to protect and guarantee our Constitutional rights. These rights come from God, not government. That’s the way it was set up originally, but the U.S. Constitution is now being trampled by government.

      – The Constitution is the cornerstone of our (Constitutional) Republic. Government typically want’s you to think that it grants your rights and freedoms, but that’s a$$-backwards. Also, plain vanilla Democracy doesn’t work due to the “tyranny of the majority.”

      – Without the protections of the U.S. Constitution we’re just another Banana Republic, and that’s the way Government likes it.

      – Second Amendment (2A) rights may soon be the deciding factor in the outcome of this power grab.

      – Congress has done nothing to protect our rights; they’re more interested in self-enrichment at our expense.

      – Democratic Socialists, plain vanilla Socialists, Progressives, Leftists, Communists are all one in the same. It’s all about power and control. There’s nothing Altruistic or Egalitarian about it.

      – Some parting apropos quotes…

      “All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others.” – George Orwell, Animal Farm

      “Socialism means slavery.” – Lord Acton

      “And remember, where you have a concentration of power in a few hands, all too frequently men with the mentality of gangsters get control. History has proven that. All power corrupts; absolute power corrupts absolutely.” – Lord Acton

      “In order to become the master, the politician poses as the servant.”  ~Charles de Gaulle

      “When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.” – Thomas Jefferson

      “What country can preserve its liberties if its rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance?” – Thomas Jefferson

      1. Red pill,
        Great post.
        I agree with your post that they are taking the Constitutional and Civil Rights protections for the individual.
        Monopolies threatening to fire you for your political views is major violation.
        The attack on White race is so anti Constitution and civil rights that it’s appalling.
        It’s all about creating a enemy . Because the USA had a high population of Whites that settled here, they are targeting this population to defeat like the enemy of their takeover.
        First gut the jobs for all Americans and loot America by Globalist Monopolies.
        Get the USA government to betray their oath, by corruption, bribes and probably blackmail.
        Take over the school system to mass brainwash, on and on.
        The worse being put race against race, American against American to divide and conquer.
        Take rights of Citizens by a fake Medical narrative not following the Science.
        Use the Judicial system as a means to attack Citizens and any laws that actually protect Citizens, on and on.

        1. “I agree with your post that they are taking the Constitutional and Civil Rights protections for the individual.”


          – Agreed. That’s the executive summary of (subversive) politics in America today, and has been for probably several decades now.

          It’s 1984 On Steroids! Big Banks, Corps, Stop Donations, House Dems Move To Make MAGA Illegal
          by Faye Higbee | Jan 11, 2021 | Politics

          “We are rapidly moving toward a one-party government just like China. The Big Banks and numerous corporations have reportedly decided not to allow donations to pro-Trump politicians or PACs. Certain members of Congress are reportedly thinking about designating the MAGA movement as “domestic terrorists.” Reminder: when you give power-hungry people total control of your legislature, this is what you get. It’s 1984 on steroids.”

          – Dear Congressperson, can you help? Anyone? Bueller?
          – Dear Citizen (Serf): No.
          – I’m not feeling very represented. “It’s taxation without representation all over again.” (paraphrased)

          Affluent Authoritarianism: McGuire and Delahunt’s New Evidence on Public Opinion and Policy
          By Thomas Ferguson | Nov 2, 2020

          In 2014, Martin Gilens and Benjamin Page drew on a data set originally compiled by Gilens for an earlier study of opinion change and policy. They scrutinized more than 1,700 cases stretching across more than twenty years that tracked public opinion about proposed policy changes at various levels of income and how policy responded. Their unsettling conclusion startled many: “Not only do ordinary citizens not have uniquely substantial power over policy decisions; they have little or no independent influence on policy at all.”[ii] The pair reaffirmed Gilens’ assessment in an earlier study that knowing what high income Americans think matters a lot: If opinion shifts among those at the 90th percentile of income and above, changes in policy in the direction they want become far more likely.

          But McGuire and Delahunt’s results are remarkable and deserve wide attention. They find that just a handful of variables suffice to explain a great deal: In contrast to so many political scientists, who linger over possibilities that the political system somehow responds to less affluent Americans in the normal course of things, McGuire and Delahunt flatly dismiss notions that anyone’s opinion about public policy outside of the top 10% of affluent Americans independently helps to explain policy. Knowing the policy area, the preferences of the top 10%, and the views of a handful of interest groups suffice to explain policy changes with impressive accuracy. Resorting to the preferences of less affluent groups actually degrades predictive accuracy, consistent with the Gilens and Page analysis.[iv]

          Predicting United States Policy Outcomes with Random Forests†Shawn K. McGuireand Charles B. Delahunt**Working Paper No. 138October27nd, 2020

          “We present two primary findings, concerning respectively prediction and inference: (i) Holdout test sets can be predicted with approximately 70% balanced accuracy by models that consult only the preferences of those in the 90thincome percentile and a small number of powerful interest groups, as well as policy area labels. These results include retrodiction, where models trained on pre-1997 cases predicted “future” (post-1997) cases. The 20% gain in accuracy over baseline (chance), in this detailed but noisy dataset, indicates the high importance of a few distinct players in U.S. policy outcomes, and aligns with a body of research indicating that the U.S. government has significant plutocratic tendencies.

  3. Some local news from the Westword (1/12/2021):

    “Calls for the resignation or expulsion of Lauren Boebert, newly elected U.S. Representative for Colorado’s 3rd Congressional District, went national this weekend, thanks in part to a CNN package about the controversial firebrand following the January 6 attack on the U.S. Capitol.

    On January 11, pressure on Boebert continued to build, with the hashtag #ResignBoebert going viral, racking up more than 23,000 tweets by the evening. In response, Boebert reacted in the spirit of Donald Trump, the outgoing president she reveres: She lashed out at enemies real and perceived in an angry statement, supplemented by selected past comments from left-wingers that she sees as worse than anything that ever fell from her lips.

    The paranoia that drips from her words isn’t delusional, since a wide variety of political enemies really are out to get the proud Second Amendment advocate, who’s already announced her intention to pack a Glock handgun while going about her duties in Washington, D.C.”

    If she doesn’t sell out I’ll be donating to her re-election campaign.

    The property I want to buy in Southern Colorado is in her district, if I buy it and register to vote there I’ll also be voting for her in 2022.

  4. ‘You can buy a condo for 2018 prices right now.

    Eat yer crowz Thornberg.

    ‘I think we will see many more condo listings next year and prices could come down even more this year. As they come down next year, it could be the opportunity for those that have been wanting to buy for a while and were previously priced out’

    Just how does “previously priced out” matter anymore Daryl? I mean, it’s a nice piece of horsesh$t, but it isn’t relevant is it? And even yer own dam self says it’s catching a falling sword. Speaking of which, what happened to soup line Larry?

  5. ‘‘D.C., Northern Virginia and the greater D.C. metro area generally has for a long time been one of the most expensive rental markets in the country’

    Here we go again.

    ‘And then the harder they come
    The harder they fall, one and all
    Ooh, the harder they come
    The harder they fall, one and all’

    ‘And I keep on fighting for the things I want
    Though I know that when you’re dead you can’t
    But I’d rather be a free man in my grave
    Than living as a puppet or a slave’

    1. I’d rather be a free man in my grave However, the only influence on public policy that grave residents have is when they vote for Democrats.

    1. It’s a great time to make the Bay Area your home. The city is certainly at a discount.’”
      It’s always a great time to buy a house. That loss will be made up next month, trust me I am UHS!

    1. Too many new users, perhaps?

      I am not registered on Gab but the homepage is loading for me on desktop browser without any problems.

    1. organic farm

      This might be why no one wants it. Tons of regulations that drive up your costs, probably making the farm unprofitable (note: successful doesn’t necessarily mean profitable). Of course, the new owner could switch it to “non organic”

      1. He was offering a turnkey operation, an opportunity for an entrepreneurial farmer to simply start growing and harvesting by leasing the land.

        Gee, I wonder how much that costs?

        1. That was my thought too. I bet he got tons of offers to buy and run the farm, but he doesn’t want to sell the land.

          1. He’s probably biding his time until he can sell the land to a residential developer for a huge wad of cash.

        2. Much too much. In order to make it in farming, the land needs to be like $500 per acre, and you need to own it. The current system is not conducive to farming insofar as farmland prices are concerned. So, some scumbag developer buys a huge parcel and then greases the pockets of the local development agency to grant him a zoning change, then it’s mcmansion central…

          1. So, some scumbag developer buys a huge parcel and then greases the pockets of the local development agency to grant him a zoning change, then it’s mcmansion central…

            Exactly. He wants some chump to rent the farm from him so he can retire on the lease payments, while his sharecropper tenant loses money, then sell for millions when the time is right.

            He could always hire someone to run the farm. but I’m guessing that would eat up all the profits.

          2. Hmmm, Rochester PA is about 28 miles commute from downtown Pittsburgh. Its doable if you want to drive until you qualify. He’s been trying to sell for 10 years, but now with w@h, there might be more demand for McMansions. There’s already a lot of development in the Cranberry area.

          3. Hmmm, Rochester PA is about 28 miles commute from downtown Pittsburgh.

            I’m a lot farther than that from downtown Dumver, and people are moving here and even to further north Fort Collins.

  6. So I wanted to bring up a topic discussed during the weekend. How do we fight back against Big Biased Tech? I’m all for moderation as long as it gets applied equally across all spectrum. This is clearly not the case with FB, Twitter, Google, Amazon, Apple, and other elitists.

    So people might state just stop using them. Like stop watching the MSM or BLM sports. I think it’s not just starving the beast. It’s about making them lose money, hitting their pocket books.

    As you can see from this article, it’s not as simple as deleting your FB account or not watching Youtube or using iTunes.

    Unfortunately, these companies have become monopolies. They control 60% of the internet traffic. Several recommendations and things I have try to do. 1) Yes, if possible decouple. Do not use them! Delete accounts, don’t order from Amazon, don’t use web server from the cloud providers, etc. Try to find alternatives! 2) If you can’t stop using them, at least use them with ad blocker. This will use up their resources but at the same time deprive them of ads clicks (revenue). For Amazon, buy stuffs and return them. This will cost them more money (they probably don’t care as online retail was always a money losing, it’s AWS that generated the profits).

    On Playstore, download “Adblock Browser”, go to settings, unclick “Acceptable Ads”, change default search engine to DuckDuckGo, and turn on “Do Not Track” in the Privacy. On IOS, this browser is not available. So in Safari, search for Adblock Plus and it will take you to their homepage. Download the extension and disable “Acceptable Ads”. Bam! No more ads while surfing the web.

    1. It’s going to be hard to starve the beast. Take Netflix. There was an uproar over their showing “Cuties”, basically a child porn flick. Millions cancelled their subscriptions, including yours truly, but many millions more stayed on. It ended up being nothing more than a speed bump for Netflix. I have boycotted the other streaming services, like Hulu, CBSAllAccess, Peacock, etc. Has that stopped Hulu from producing the Handmaid’s Tale, or CBS from producing Star Trek: Discovery or Picard? Nope. They are running full speed ahead. The only streaming channel that I know of that failed was the super niche DCUniverse, which was folded into HBOMax.

      Just how many people are cancelling their social media accounts? Other than linked in, I have none. Yet the Beasts are prospering, their market caps soar into the stratosphere, giving them an endless source of cash to purchase other companies and buy whatever the heck they want.

      Amazon’s AWS gave Parler the boot. How many have cancelled shopping at Amazon, or stop using AWS or the Cloud in general? Very few. The Beast keeps chugging along.

      Sorry if this sounds black pill, but what can we really do?

      1. Remember, the Fed’s printed dollars go direct drive to these clowns. So while you might be right that our actions are a speed bump, you’ll have to wait and see what happens when the credit-driven house of cards comes down on Biden.

        I do fully recognize that this may not happen for a significant time yet, having been waiting since 2006.

    2. Great post.

      I don’t have much to add to it now but will only reiterate what I’ve been posting for months now: let’s stop giving them money.

      1. Reading a comment on a Bitchute Styx video:

        “What do you call a $60billion loss in Facebook’s market value over 48 hours?

        A GOOD Start!”

    3. I found this list with more suggestions posted over at ZH.

      How do patriotic Americans react in 2021-2022 now that Google, Twitter, Instagram and CCP have declared war?? There are things we can do NOW that will have an immediate impact.

      1. Cancel cable, Direct TV and Dish. Today. Keep the internet. Save $800+/- per year. Hit them in the pocketbook. Do not support them with your money.

      2. Cancel and delete your accounts for Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, Amazon Prime. Go anonymous. Use Gab or Clouthub until Parler come back. Communication is key. Stay connected but not through the Big Tech censors.

      3. Delete/disable Chrome and Google. Use Tor or Brave as browsers and Duck Duck Go instead of GOOG. Google makes their money on ads, SRO payments and selling your data. Shut it down. Dump Whats App for Signal or Telegram.

      4. Cancel all your paid magazine and newspaper subscriptions (paper and digital) except those that support America and are Conservative.

      5. Cancel and cut up all your extra credit cards. Keep a maximum of 3 if practical. It hurts the banks when this happens, even if the card is free and dormant. If you pay a fee to the bank for the card, it hurts them even more.

      6. Create an anonymous email account on Migrate from Gmail, Hotmail, Yahoo, etc and then delete or deactivate the other account if possible.

      7. Pay cash when you shop when possible so your purchases are anonymous.

      8. Buy locally from Mom and Pop stores and absolutely pay in cash; they’ve been devastated.

      9. Google yourself and scrub your data. Search yourself on Duck Duck Go and Start Page, too. Start with MyLife, White Pages, and Spokeo. They aggregate and sell YOUR PERSONAL DATA. SHUT IT DOWN! It takes effort but you can do it (usually there is a privacy link on the bottom of the webpage). They make it difficult but persevere. This also helps prevent identity theft.

      10. Don’t buy anything made in China (it is possible but difficult).

      11. Change party affiliation to Independent or No Party Affiliation (everyone should do this). If you want to vote in party primary, change your affiliation before the primary so you can vote.

      12. Get involved in LOCAL politics where you can still make an impact. Write, email and call about LOCAL issues.

      13. Seek out like-minded people as a support group (NOT as an echo chamber)

      14. Join a gun club and learn to shoot for self-defense. Get your CCP.

      15. Go to Church. Interact with other believers. Restore your Faith.

      16. Stay focused and positive. Do not be demoralized. Trust in God.

      17. Keep your “smart phone” (the 24/7/365 spy device) in a Faraday bag, especially at home.

      It’s on. Stop supporting tyranny. Starve the Beast.

  7. I like to hear other suggestions. For example, I have a Samsung phone and they have an Apps Atore as well. I wanted to buy some pokecoins for my son’s Pokemon Go account (haha really it’s for me) so I downloaded the App from Samsung store, and purchase from Samsung. It’s not a big purchase but Google is not getting my $9.99. To fight Hollywood, start buying Dvds? Share streaming accounts? I am using Prime for 30 days free then I will cancel, I’m using my Brother-in-law Netflix account for free, signed up for free HBO Max then cancel, same thing with Starz. At some points, I may just bittorrent movies again but right now, no good movies to watch so it’s just a waste of my time.

    Don’t pay for anything on Play or iTunes. Don’t watch sports! I haven’t watched these buffoons since I had kids. Too busy and I almost never watch the MSM news (stop watching Foxnews on YT). BTW, I have my Samsung S8 for almost 4 years now. Trying not to upgrade to iPhone or any new phone. What else can we do to decouple from Big Tech??? I installed ad blocker on my kids devices (they love watching youtube). My wife loves FB so I told her not to use the app but access the website with the Ad blocker on. My experience with the Adblocker is great. Remember to whitelist sites you want to support like HBB or better yet, support this blog directly with donations. If anyone else have any recommendations, let me know. Yes I would love to stop using tech or internet completely. Just take a break from looking at my monitor or phone screen all day. But it’s hard. All my families are in the east coast and I’m in SV in a lockdown. I heard that in many places (FL, Utah, AZ), they are packed with people LOL

  8. Maybe only buy American made. Support that is being wiped out by lockdowns. In California they are really socking it to small business especially restaurants.
    I have to go to a big grocery store.chain to get food, and I don’t know how to get around that.
    It’s just hard when Monopolies control so much. It’s easy to turn off the Hollywood crowd and their movies that are bad now anyway.

    1. In California they are really socking it to small business especially restaurants.

      That is not an accident. Consider this:

      If the only employers left are multinationals, they control your employment fate. If they black ball you (say by dinging the coming social credit score, because you are guilty of wrong think) you might find that no one will employ you, not even McDonalds. So it’s off to UBI land for you.

      1. Speak for yourself, I wasted enough of my life working for Fortune 500 corporations and federal government contractors.

        It’s a nice feeling knowing I will never sit through some corporate diversity training or have a female supervisor ever again.

        1. I’m not speaking for my self. I’m watching how it’s done in places like China, which the Dems want to copy here. Sure, it won’t be 100% corporate America, but their reach will increase dramatically. And they will make life increasingly difficult for small business that survive, by piling on new regulations that will crush them.

        2. I’m retired, but the thought occurred to me if I say the wrong thing out some place one of their nuts could attack me.
          They have created this on purpose.

  9. BTW, now that we got “liberals” calling for re-education camps for the children of those who think differently than them, torture of non-violent protesters, etc, let’s recall those who thought it extreme for me to say we should nip this in the bud and hang these traitor pieces of shit a while back. En masse.

    But Ben, how did you know it would become so draconian?

    It always does, with these socialist/communist. Every gotdam time. The ignorant are doomed to repeat history. They can’t stand dissent, no opposition is tolerated, hate free speech. They aren’t democratic. They don’t follow the rule of law. They are unapologetic about their rampant hypocrisy and lawlessness.

    As I’ve said, they aren’t liberal. Far from it. So as we fall one group at a time under their targets, one after another will say, now that’s it, they’ve got to be stopped! Just hope it’s not too late. Luckily, the President won by a landslide and the 80 million or so who voted know it and are armed to the teeth. Let’s have an insurrection act and get the necktie party started!

    1. The thing is, conservatives still think of them as “the loyal opposition”. The problem is, the Dems stopped being that a long time ago. Now they want to put us into labor camps.

  10. One of these things is not like the other.

    And though I realize he may be talking his book, his comment is incorrect. Crypto is nothing like the stock market, and there is nothing special about Bitcoin to make it any more valuable than the Beanie Baby staring at me from the corner of my office.

    Key Words
    Mark Cuban says recent crypto trading is ‘exactly like the internet stock bubble’
    Last Updated: Jan. 11, 2021 at 5:48 p.m. ET
    First Published: Jan. 11, 2021 at 1:16 p.m. ET
    By Weston Blasi
    Billionaire Mark Cuban thinks bitcoin can ‘survive and thrive’

  11. Disclaimer: I have no idea how thoroughly this has been checked out.

    Of course if every word was found to be true, Snopes would say it was FALSE and leftists would want me sent to a reeducation camp or worse for posting it.

    Supreme Court of Italy Legal Counsel Testifies About 2020 Election Interference Operation Directed by US Officials

    by Jamie White
    January 12th 2021, 12:26 pm

    “D’Elia has been deposed by the presiding judge in Naples and in sworn testimony states on 4 November 2020, under instruction and direction of US persons working from the US Embassy in Rome, undertook the operation to switch data from the US elections of 3 November 2020 from significant margin of victory for Donald Trump to Joe Biden in a number of states where Joe Biden was losing the vote totals.”

    “Defendant stated he was working in the Pescara facility of Leonardo SpA and utilized military grade cyber warfare encryption capabilities to transmit switched votes via military satellite of Fucino Tower to Frankfurt Germany.”

    “The defendant swears that the data in some cases may have been switched to represent more than total voters registered. The defendant has stated he is willing to testify to all individuals and entities involved in the switching of votes from Donald Trump to Joe Biden when he shall be in total protection for himself and his family. Defendant states he has secured in an undisclosed location the backup of the original data and data switched upon instruction to provide evidence at court in this matter.”

      1. It was probably rainwater flooding in that low porch-type area where they pulled the carpet. Window boarded up on the front. Cheesy winterization. I’m not sure what that net over the pool accomplishes, make the body easier to get out?

        They’ve been whacking the price since the bank took it. Priced less than 2010 now. Wa happened to my red-hotcakes Cedar Creek?

        1. LOL. Good eye Ben. Maybe it is water damage that’s making it a tough sell.

          There are also a couple of newer foreclosures in nearby Kyle TX.

          All I hear from folks in Austin is how hot the market is. If the markets so hot why are their foreclosures that make it all the way thru the process? All the foreclosure experts will tell you all the good deals never make it past the courthouse steps.

          1. The carpet and pad would cost very little. That’s a slab so no underlying water damage. It went back to the lender, probably for what was owed. So no one bid at the courthouse.

    1. $200k in mat and labor new.
      What’s the lot worth.. maybe $5k?

      Sounds like someone paid too much.

      1. I think that’s supposed to be a “luxury touch”.

        But what happened to the glass around the shower? There isn’t even a shower curtain rod.

  12. Is wrong think gonna have to fall back on listserv pretty soon to share ideas and discussion?

    1. fall back on listserv

      I’ve thought about that. I’m capable of hosting an email list right now, but I have no idea how well my server host would stand up to political pressure to unhost me. The beauty of going back to email is that it’s definitely designed to route around blockages in the network.

      1. UUCP? NNTP? FidoNET? All worthy of distributed (but not really instant) communications. Honestly, text-only, low-bandwidth BBS infrastructure might be the wave of the future, with modern encryption. Oh, wait…we’ve already seen that in various sandboxes where we’ve plied our national trade.

        I miss my !address.

    2. 2000 to 2007 was peak Internet, before the i-phone came out and every knuckle dragger and window licker got on Fakebook.

      I was at a friend’s house in the late 1980s logging in to something on a 300 baud modem to look at basically nothing and wondering what is the point of this.

      Napster was really cool…

      1. 2000 to 2007 was peak Internet

        I agree. In the early 90s at college I had people trying to message me on my workstation and I ignored it as annoying. It was 1994 when I discovered car related email lists that it clicked for me. I was never one of the kids with a computer at home, I built my first computer to use at home when I was already employed as an engineer and DSL had just become available and my mailing list car group needed a new physical host site. So I went from nothing to DSL and my own newly built W2K beta machine and the group’s Unix machine and 8 static IPs all at once. I had just settled into my first house in a newly built subdivision a couple of years before (136k, 1360ft^2 plus basement) and my son was born and I thought life was all up and to the right from there.

        Little did I know…

  13. Earlier in the year, Newsom threatened to withhold SB 1 funds from cities and counties that didn’t conform to government’s homebuilding plans. The law has become much more than just a means of funding improvements to California’s vehicle arteries.

    The revenues from SB 1, which added 12 cents to the price of a gallon of gasoline, thereby creating the highest gasoline tax regime in the country, and 20 cents to a gallon of diesel fuel, leaving the state with the highest diesel taxes in America. These funds should be spent to improve California’s rotten automobile infrastructure, not pirated for political uses.

    1. I saw that. IF it’s true then yes, if he can avoid getting locked out by impeachment AND we can force a fair election it wouldn’t surprise me to see Trump come back with the new Bull Moose party in 4. Sweep them all out…

    2. Did a single one of these Congress Critters actually listen to the President’s speech in its entirety? Read the transcript of it through and through? Ask any of the attendees what they thought the words meant?

      I don’t think it is possible, or they embrace lies to further their political (for profit) glide path.

        1. They’ve become accustomed to getting their way with no consequences. Don’t like someone? Cancel ’em!

    3. I don’t understand the ZH article. First they say there are “enough” Republican Senators to convict Trump. Then they quote three Senators. Then they say “as many as a dozen” Senators. A dozen is not enough.

      And could these idiots in the MSM please distinguish between “impeach” and “convict?” Good lord, they’ve been covering it long enough.

      1. distinguish between “impeach” and “convict?”

        I’d bet is deliberate. It’s far easier to impeach than convict so MSM can run with the narrative “DJT is the first president to be impeached twice.” Big whoop. Had the House done a decent job the first time, they wouldn’t need a second one. To me, it highlights the prosecutors incompetence.

  14. I was watching this at Monkey Werx:

    What is Real?

    He mentioned this video:

    ‘ISIS’ Green Screen

    ‘A leaked video shows behind the scenes of a staged terror video.’

    Years ago I posted info showing the US pretty much set up the whole sorry affair:

    ‘A revealing light on how we got here has now been shone by a recently declassified secret US intelligence report, written in August 2012, which uncannily predicts – and effectively welcomes – the prospect of a “Salafist principality” in eastern Syria and an al-Qaida-controlled Islamic state in Syria and Iraq. In stark contrast to western claims at the time, the Defense Intelligence Agency document identifies al-Qaida in Iraq (which became Isis) and fellow Salafists as the “major forces driving the insurgency in Syria” – and states that “western countries, the Gulf states and Turkey” were supporting the opposition’s efforts to take control of eastern Syria.’

    ‘Raising the “possibility of establishing a declared or undeclared Salafist principality”, the Pentagon report goes on, “this is exactly what the supporting powers to the opposition want…”

    Here’s the PDF:

    So those videos they terrorized the world with were probably CIA fakes. We need more rope.

  15. Telegram Enjoys User Surge as Founder Decries People Being “Held Hostage by Tech Monopolies”

    by Paul Joseph Watson
    January 12th 2021, 4:48 pm

    25 million new users joined social media platform Telegram in the last 72 hours alone as its founder slammed people “being held hostage by tech monopolies.”

    The messaging app surpassed 500 million monthly active users in the first week of January and is now adding millions more in the wake of Big Tech’s latest censorship purge.

    “People no longer want to exchange their privacy for free services,” said founder Pavel Durov. “They no longer want to be held hostage by tech monopolies that seem to think they can get away with anything as long as their apps have a critical mass of users.”

    The surge was partly driven by Twitter’s unprecedented banning of President Trump, a move condemned by even the governments of France and Germany.

    1. The HBB isn’t just a housing blog, it’s a tech blog too.

      Thanks again Ben Jones for giving us a platform to discuss it.

    2. Wow, France and Germany condeming Trump being
      banned. I like it. France gave us the Statue of Liberty and gave us a loan to fight the Revolution against the British.

  16. This is getting to be serious stuff that these nuts have stolen the vote and they are threatening their political rivals with camps for God Sakes.
    This is so Hilter and Stalin like dangerous talk, and very Communist China.

    1. I’ve been reading a lot of Cormac McCarthy recently. Other than the popular one that got made into a movie, none of his books are set in a time later than the early 1980s.

      When you can get off of screens and completely disconnect from the present it’s a really nice feeling.

      P.S. Debt is slavery.

      1. Debt is slavery

        It is no accident that we have become a nation of slaves to debt just as our political freedoms are being systematically removed. Coincidence but not an accident.

        I fought the first battle feeling quite alone. I fervently hope I will not feel alone fighting the second one. Call me silly, but if you are to gird yourselves for what lies ahead, it will involve severing your dependency on the debt dealers.

      2. You ought to have buckets of cash by now from renting for half the monthly cost all these years no?

        1. Buckets of cash were handed to him. But at least he’s spending that cash wisely. Buy some raw land, put an RV/camper/tinyhouse on it, and live simply and frugally.

      3. Cormac McCarthy is tough. I feel like he was personifying the neocons/MIC with the judge in Blood Meridian. No Country for Old Men IS epic, but The Road feels the most like poetry.

        McCarthy is what Stephen King could’ve been if he had about 50 more IQ points.

    1. When you control the flow of information to the vast majority of the deeply ignorant who also BELIEVE they’re educated, this is the inescapable outcome.

  17. In other news for 2021: Azaelia Banks dug up her dead cat, Lucifer, and boiled him live on Instagram; and, Armie Hammer is a self-professed cannibal.

    1. “In other news for 2021: Azaelia Banks dug up her dead cat, Lucifer, and boiled him live on Instagram;”

      I was hoping that was a joke, but like many things I have been hoping for lately that did not turn out to be the case.

      Azealia Banks films herself digging up dead pet cat and cooking it in horrifying Instagram video

      11 hours ago
      Monika Barton

      1. Azaelia Banks

        Yet another entertainment screwball I’ve never heard of. That’s what happens when you cut the cord.

  18. Posted: January 11, 2021Categories: News

    FBI Quietly Releases 284-page Report on Nancy Pelosi’s Corrupt Father Exposing Her Brother as a Repeat Child Rapist WHILE THE MEDIA WAS BUSY COVERING THE US CAPITOL PROTEST Wednesday Night! (Nancy Pelosi’s Name is Redacted From All Crimes)

    Late Wednesday night, the FBI declassified hundreds of documents related to Nancy Pelosi’s father and former mayor of Baltimore Thomas D’ Alesandro Jr., who had known mob connections and later paved the way for his corrupt relatives to ascend to office, namely his daughter and son.

    Wondering why this didn’t get much news coverage? The FBI released the 284-page report while the media was busy hyperventilating about the purported insurrection at the US Capitol Wednesday night.

    The FBI is thus proven to be openly colluding with the media to further the Democrats’ goal of a total political takeover of the country.

    On page 42 and 43, the FBI details that Nancy Pelosi’s brother, Franklin, viciously gangraped an 11-year-old girl and a 13-year-old girl with 14 other men. Franklin Alesandro was the only one that was acquitted of all charges of the whole group, because his father had government and mob connections as the corrupt and incompetent mayor of Baltimore.

    But they had to go even further.

    They redacted Nancy Pelosi’s name from all the crimes that were reported in the document.

    Significant portions of the report are completely whited out — even the part of the family tree where daughter Nancy Pelosi should be. (Note: Pelosi’s mother was nicknamed Nancy and appears under “Wife” in the following photo.)

    What could they possibly be hiding? The Pelosi crime family runs deep.

    Read the full newly released report for yourself here.

    1. Wondering why this didn’t get much news coverage?

      Nope, not really.

      Modern journalism is about covering a story, with a pillow, until it stops moving.

  19. Conservative Commentator Says AIG Canceled His Insurance Over His Social Media Posts

    by Paul Joseph Watson
    January 13th 2021, 7:37 am

    Conservative commentator and former baseball star Curt Schilling says that AIG canceled his insurance policy over his “social media profile,” a new level of deplatforming not yet seen.

    “We will be just fine, but wanted to let Americans know that @AIGinsurance canceled our insurance due to my “Social Media profile,” tweeted Schilling.

    “The agent told us it was a decision made by and with their PR department in conjunction with management,” he added.

    While innumerable Trump supporters have lost their Twitter and Facebook accounts due to social media censorship and cancel culture, cases of individuals being cut off by banks and other financial services are now growing too.

    The purge has gone beyond the realm of simply silencing people on major platforms for their opinions, but punishing them for expressing them by trying to make their lives unlivable.

    Have an important tip? Let us know.
    Conservative commentator and former baseball star Curt Schilling says that AIG canceled his insurance policy over his “social media profile,” a new level of deplatforming not yet seen.

    “We will be just fine, but wanted to let Americans know that @AIGinsurance canceled our insurance due to my “Social Media profile,” tweeted Schilling.

    “The agent told us it was a decision made by and with their PR department in conjunction with management,” he added.

    While innumerable Trump supporters have lost their Twitter and Facebook accounts due to social media censorship and cancel culture, cases of individuals being cut off by banks and other financial services are now growing too.

    The purge has gone beyond the realm of simply silencing people on major platforms for their opinions, but punishing them for expressing them by trying to make their lives unlivable.

    Numerous respondents pointed out the obvious – that without insurance it’s impossible to mortgage a home or register a vehicle.

    However, other leftists applauded the move and said that Schilling deserved it for his support of Trump.

    “You’ve definitely earned it,” remarked one.

    “I mean…. capitalism right? They calculated the risk and decided your premiums weren’t worth the long term exposure?” added another.

    What happened to Schilling is yet another chilling example of how Chinese Communist social credit score system is being implemented in America.

    In August 2019, the Communist state bragged about how it had prevented 2.5 million “discredited entities” from purchasing plane tickets and 90,000 people from buying high speed train tickets in the month of July alone.

    1. “Conservative commentator and former baseball star Curt Schilling says that AIG canceled his insurance policy over his “social media profile,” a new level of deplatforming not yet seen.”
      By David Goldman, staff writer
      Last Updated: December 30, 2008: 8:24 AM ET

      AIG bailout: $127.7B and counting

      The world’s largest insurer has borrowed nearly 84% of its allotted government bailout, according to the Federal Reserve.

      NEW YORK ( — To help troubled insurer American International Group stabilize its finances, the Federal Reserve and Treasury have offered AIG a sizeable lifeline to be paid back over the next five years – and to date, the company has borrowed almost all of it.

      The government promised up to $152.5 billion to AIG allocated through four separate programs to alleviate a myriad of AIG’s woes. Here’s what AIG has borrowed so far:
      “he described corporatocracy as a collective composed of corporations, banks, and governments.”

      “These individuals control the process of determining society’s economic and political policies.”

      Freebase(4.00 / 1 vote)Rate this definition:

      Corporatocracy, not to be confused with Corporatism, is a term used as an economic and political system controlled by corporations or corporate interests. It is a generally pejorative term often used by critics of the current economic situation in a particular country, especially the United States. The term has been used by liberal and left-leaning critics, but also some economic libertarian critics and other political observers across the political spectrum. Economist Jeffrey Sachs described the United States as a corporatocracy in his book The Price of Civilization. He suggested that it arose from four trends: weak national parties and strong political representation of individual districts, the large U.S. military establishment after World War II, big corporate money financing election campaigns, and globalization tilting the balance away from workers. The term was used by author John Perkins in his 2004 book Confessions of an Economic Hit Man, where he described corporatocracy as a collective composed of corporations, banks, and governments. This collective is known as what author C Wright Mills would call the Power Elite. The Power Elite are wealthy individuals who hold prominent positions in Corporatocracies. These individuals control the process of determining society’s economic and political policies.

    2. So what’s next? Will Kroger refuse to sell you groceries if your social credit score is too low?

      The bottom line is that they are doing this to scare the common Joe. Fall out of line and corporations will make your life very difficult. The government doesn’t need to persecute you or even violate the Bill of Rights. Corporate America will do it for them: “We’re sorry, Mr. Gun Owner, but MegaCorp has a strict policy against hiring people who own fire arms. We know that you’re desperate to find a new job since your layoff, and you would be a good fit here at MegaCorp. Now, if you would be willing to surrender your guns in to the local police, we will extend you an offer of employment.”

        1. A lot of people are taking great delight in this. They overlook the fact that this could be turned on them some day. All it would take is to annoy someone with a modicum of power and suddenly, even though they had all the “right think” check boxes ticked, they suddenly find themselves cancelled.

          As the cancelling trickles down to more ordinary people, people will be scared. Right now only high profile people are being cancelled, but we know that will start happening to more ordinary people soon. I expect that soon enough, even though Biden and Pelosi go through the motions with being Catholics, that church membership, especially in the RCC, will become “problematic”. They won’t close churches, but corporations will cancel people who are members.

      1. You can’t have Globalist Monopoly Corps rule because their self interest would be against the individual. .
        What ever happened to Governments duty to break up Monopolies. Monopolies own the Gov now.

  20. There is so much disinformation now that we no longer have news.
    I expect Biden to mandate a National Lockdown, with a travel ban between States.
    Probably to prevent protests.
    They are going to rig elections in the future and nobody will stop them .
    It’s absurd that they are testing a bunch of people for Covid-19 that aren’t. sick
    when the tests aren’t accurate. No doubt to give the illusion of massive case load.
    Since when in medical history do you test people who aren’t sick, with a faulty test.
    So, with the censoring of any dispute to their crazy false narratives the lockdowns are for another agenda.
    On the TV news they were saying only 40,% compliance on vaccines so far.
    Again fake impeachment of Trump by fake charges and the Rebublican showing their allegence to Globalist and Deep State.
    Trump being a outsider to this corrupted Washington DC sold out traitors of one party , is being taken out.
    So, much for Gov by the people , it’s all rigged.
    They are going to bribe with handouts now to their chosen winners , and reverse anything Trump did.
    Open up the borders, undermined the Country, anything the Globalist want.
    They have the power to tax, lockdown, and they have the military, and fake news, and rigged elections.
    So, they are cutting off all rebellion to this take over.
    So, I don’t know how US Citizens who don’t like this assult on the USA are going to combat it.
    Their methods are Hilter/Stalin and false attacks on US Citizens, even talking about camps to reprogram.
    It’s all going so fast now and talk about the true colors of these Powers that own the Government.

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