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A Growing Percentage Of Sellers Quickly Learn That They’ll Have To Get Real

A weekend topic starting with the Staunton News Leader in Virginia. ” According to the Greater Augusta Association of Realtors, there are 370 listings currently active. Previously, it was a challenge to sell over $350,000, but looking at the current market showed a seller’s market with some prices reaching up to $800,000. August showed it transitioning from a seller’s market to a buyer’s market with prices starting at $600,000. Average sales prices have been influx since January. The average sales price dropped 5.8% in January, but jumped back up 19.9% in March. April it was down 7.1% and June it went up 15% only to drop 10.6% in July. August increased 5.4%.”

“It appears that if a property is properly priced, then the number of showings and multiple offers are occurring, which drive the prices up above the listing price,’ Rick Kane, broker for Westhills Realtors said in his report. A potential problem with that is, a home needs to be appraised for the sales price or above. ‘In a rising market, the issue becomes lack of comparable sales in order to justify the higher offers,’ Kane said. ‘It can create issues where a buyer is willing to pay. more, but the lender will not lend them the money due to a lower appraisal.'”

The South Florida Sun Sentinel. “Some home sellers are getting greedy in the scorching housing market, and it’s backfiring on them. Many are setting their prices too high, trying to squeeze out every dollar from buyers who are willing to pay well over the asking price, often with cash. A growing percentage of sellers quickly learn that they’ll have to get real. ‘Many of the price cuts are a result of sellers getting overconfident in this market and asking for too much,’ said Eli Beracha, professor of real estate at Florida International University.”

“But widespread price cuts also can be bad for the overall market, as they cause buyers to be wary of trying to buy and they might back away, said Whitney J Dutton, real estate adviser with the Dutton Group in Fort Lauderdale. ‘When you make price reductions to get them back to the property, they wonder what’s wrong with it. Why doesn’t anyone else want it?’ he said.”

“Real estate agents call the high prices a ‘make-me-move’ price. Sellers want to see how much money they can make rather than moving out of pure necessity, Dutton said. Almost 25% of sellers put their homes on the market just to see how much profit they can make, according to realtor.com. Almost 30% said they were going to ask for more than their home was worth.”

From News 10 on New York. “The real estate market has been hot since the pandemic began—low inventory and high prices. However, some new trends could mean the market is cooling off. Beth Kayser said she plans to put her house on Hunter Hill Road in Ballston Lake up for sale in just a few days. The average home price was $395,000 in August 2020 compared to $204,000 last August. Meaning, the median sale price went up 29.9 percent.”

“‘It’s been a lot of work to make sure it’s in pristine condition and ready for sale. I want to get the best price for my house,’ Kayser said. ‘I’m very nervous about what will happen. What will happen with the market; It’s unsure.'”

Two reports from Market Watch. “Are companies like Zillow and Redfin manipulating home prices by purchasing properties across the country? That’s what one real-estate agent claims. Nevada real-estate agent Sean Gotcher criticizes the ‘iBuying’ business model, in which companies buy and sell homes for a profit. Gotcher argues that the company will buy 30 homes at one price, and then purchase a 31st home at a higher price. ‘What that just did is create a new comp,’ Gotcher says, referring to comparable prices on nearby properties, which appraisers user to determine the value of a home for sale. He then says the company can turn around and sell the other homes at that new, higher price.”

“If you could rig the residential housing market that easily, the Realtors would have done it long ago,’ said Gilles Duranton, a real-estate professor at the University of Pennsylvania’s Wharton School. ‘Doing this would be short-sighted. If house prices keep rising like crazy, they will eventually crash.'”

“The Federal Reserve warned on Wednesday that it’s close to being ready to taper the bond-buying program that’s been in place throughout the COVID-19 pandemic to boost the nation’s economy. In a speech following the central bank’s meeting, Fed Chairman Jerome Powell indicated that the bank could ‘easily move’ to scale back those purchases when it meets again in November. Additionally, the Fed signaled that an interest-rate hike could come sooner than expected in 2022.”

“‘The era of sub 3% mortgage rates may be behind us already by the end of this year,’ said George Ratiu, manager of economic research at Realtor.com.”

From News.com.au in Australia. “Prices are higher than they were before anyone knew what Covid-19 was and have grown at the fastest annual pace since 1989. ‘In dollar terms, the annual increase in national dwelling values equates to approximately $103,400, or $1990 per week,’ CoreLogic research director Tim Lawless said.”

“Apart from those trying to get on the property ladder and struggling, most other players in the market would be celebrating the historic upward movement of the market … right? This week, an unlikely voice joined the growing chorus of concern over the continuing boom, which has continued during lockdowns in the two biggest markets of Sydney and Melbourne. Commonwealth Bank chief executive Matt Comyn said he’s growing ‘increasingly concerned’ by the rapid growth of prices in virtually every city, as well as across major regional areas.”

“Despite being the nation’s largest bank and biggest lender of loans for home purchases, meaning it’s raking in the cash, Mr Comyn told a parliamentary hearing the bank wanted to see steps taken to ‘take some of the heat out of the housing market.'”

“Another bombshell dropped by Mr Comyn on Thursday was that his bank had lifted its serviceability floor in its own attempt to cool the market. That means, the rate at which a bank tests a person’s ability to continue repaying their mortgage if interest rates rise has been brought up for Commonwealth Bank customers. Currently, the official interest rate in Australia is at an all-time low of 0.10 per cent, making the cost of borrowing money extremely cheap.”

The Sydney Morning Herald. “Australian regulators have been urged to cool the booming housing market, with the International Monetary Fund warning a property price correction would pose a significant risk to the nation’s economic stability. Tightening restrictions on lending is among major recommendations from the IMF to take the heat out of the property sector along with ramping up home building and reforming generous housing-related tax benefits.”

“‘Whenever you see such a fast rise in house prices, it will be tempting for some to get ahead of themselves into the housing market in ways that they shouldn’t have done,’ IMF Australia mission chief Harald Finger said.”

The Herald Times. “The median sales price of single-family homes in Monroe County was $265,000 in July, up 15.3% from a year earlier, according to the Indiana Association of Realtors. Data from the Federal Reserve Bank in St. Louis show housing prices in Bloomington rose about 10% annually between 2014 and 2017, but have jumped about 18% per year since then. That’s about three times the rate of annual home price inflation the community saw in the 20-year-period before the Great Recession.”

From Reuters. “Sales of new U.S. single-family homes increased for a second straight month in August, but demand for housing has probably peaked after a COVID-19 pandemic-fueled buying frenzy. The report from the Commerce Department on Friday also showed the supply of new homes on the market last month was the largest in nearly 13 years, with prices unchanged on a monthly basis. It followed on the heels of news on Wednesday that sales of previously owned homes fell in August.”

“‘These data suggest that the surge in new home sales during the pandemic has ebbed and inventories of unsold homes have risen to a more normal level in relation to sales,’ said Conrad DeQuadros, senior economic advisor at Brean Capital in New York. ‘This report and the existing home sales data for August suggest that a considerable portion of the flow adjustment of sales to higher demand may have taken place.'”

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  1. ‘Data from the Federal Reserve Bank in St. Louis show housing prices in Bloomington rose about 10% annually between 2014 and 2017, but have jumped about 18% per year since then. That’s about three times the rate of annual home price inflation the community saw in the 20-year-period before the Great Recession’

    Way worse than last decade in another sh$thole. These bashtards know what they’ve done. Remember, this is the “you’ll own nothing and be happy” crowd.

    1. Somebody needs to spill Klaus Schwab’s brains out on the sidewalk – just split his cranium open with a sharp axe, right down the center.

  2. ‘Previously, it was a challenge to sell over $350,000, but looking at the current market showed a seller’s market with some prices reaching up to $800,000. August showed it transitioning from a seller’s market to a buyer’s market with prices starting at $600,000. Average sales prices have been influx since January. The average sales price dropped 5.8% in January, but jumped back up 19.9% in March. April it was down 7.1% and June it went up 15% only to drop 10.6% in July. August increased 5.4%’

    I’ll make a point that seems to elude the REIC media. Why were shack loan interest rates so low for decades? Because prices were stable for decades. Maybe 1% increase, or a little higher if there was inflation.

    Now suppose you had $600,000 in cold cash. Would you lend that to some goof to buy a shack with prices jumping around like this? Probably not. But most importantly, would you make that loan at 3%? Oh hell no. You’d demand a risk premium. After all you could be wiped out in a month.

    Another thing the REIC isn’t saying. If prices can go up 50% in a short time, they can fall just as much and as fast.

    1. It only takes a 33% drop to erase a 50% gain. And if you’re the last buyer of in after the gain, you’re screwed.

    2. “Now suppose you had $600,000 in cold cash. Would you lend that to some goof to buy a shack with prices jumping around like this? Probably not.”

      Isn’t this where the Fed’s role as lender of last resort comes in?

    2. The permanently high plateau is back!

      “…with prices unchanged on a monthly basis. It followed on the heels of news on Wednesday that sales of previously owned homes fell in August.”

    3. Yeah, I know, you think all this inventory came from Harry Potter. More likely all this inventory is coming from downsizing baby boomers. One figure is that 3.2 million have retired between late 2019 and late 2020; I’m sure another couple million more have retired since.

      1. More likely all this inventory is coming from downsizing baby boomers

        I’m gonna go with speculators heading for the exits.

  4. “Are companies like Zillow and Redfin manipulating home prices by purchasing properties across the country?”

    Do flies like the taste of sheite?

    1. It would be awesome if the Sherman Antitrust Act were brought to bear against these market manipulators.

  5. If house prices keep rising like crazy, they will eventually crash.’”

    It makes no sense that we have the most insane housing bubble in human history, yet the Keynesian fraudsters at the Fed are still buying $40B in MBS from their bankster accomplices every month.

    1. It makes perfect sense. They’re padding their own bank accounts. They need their skulls ventilated, their necks cricked, their chest cavities filleted.

  6. Et tu, St. Greta? Suddenly all of the globalist mouthpieces are turning on Sleepy Joe, which likely indicates the puppet masters are preparing to shunt him aside and elevate Comrade Kamala to be their cardboard cutout.

    Now Greta turns on Joe! Teen eco-warrior calls Biden a hypocrite for his Build Back Better plan – which she says is NOT investing in green tech

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10026627/Eco-warrior-calls-Biden-hypocrite-Build-Better-plan-NOT-investing-green-tech.html

    Swedish environmental activist Greta Thunberg has mocked President Joe Bidenover his promises to tackle climate change via his ‘Build Back Better’ plan.

    During a climate rally in Berlin on Friday, she took the American president to task over comments he had made during an address to the United Nations General Assembly earlier in the week.

  8. Minnesota libtards experiencing buyers’ remorse.

    FREE FALL: Biden Plummeting in Reliably Blue Minnesota

    https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/ari-j-kaufman/2021/09/24/free-fall-biden-plummeting-in-reliably-blue-minnesota-n1481168

    A poll released Thursday night by the Gopher State’s largest newspaper shows President Joe Biden’s overall job approval in Minnesota below 50 percent for the first time. And once you go outside the very liberal Twin Cities area, barely one-third of respondents support the president. Last November, Biden received 52.4 percent of the vote across the Land of 10,000 Lakes.

    1. “Last November, Biden received 52.4 percent of the vote across the Land of 10,000 Lakes.”

      Uh, no, he didn’t.

  9. Another “Oh dear” moment in time.

    ‘Eerie silence’ as Evergrande misses payment deadline

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/sep/24/eerie-silence-as-evergrande-misses-payment-deadline

    The embattled Chinese property developer Evergrande is inching closer to the potential default that investors fear, after missing an interest payment deadline.

    The company, which has total debts of about $305bn (£222bn), has run short of cash, and investors are worried that a collapse could pose systemic risks to China’s financial system and reverberate around the world.

  11. HBB weekend challenge: can anyone name *ONE* thing that has improved in this country for U.S. citizens since the unelected Joe Biden was installed into the White House?

    One, just one, because I can’t think of any.

    It’s time to become more aggressive with our leaderless resistance. It’s time to start confronting Pedo Joe voters directly, in person. It’s time for us to go full Saul Alinsky on them with their own methods. Like Maxine Waters said, get in their faces.

    We know that 99.999% of Rapey Joe voters are unarmed, so it’s not like there will be any consequences. Look at the size of their spaghetti noodle arms. They couldn’t fight their way out of a wet paper bag, and as research has proven, any white male who voted for Biden is a cuck who is incapable of achieving arousal without watching his wife / girlfriend get plowed by another man.

    P.S. the 2020 election was stolen.

    1. HBB weekend challenge: can anyone name *ONE* thing that has improved in this country for U.S. citizens since the unelected Joe Biden was installed into the White House?

      The memes have gotten pretty darn funny.

      1. Go ahead and make jokes about it.

        This country is literally on the edge of an abyss, from which there will be no escaping.

        We can all stop pretending now, too. We can start admitting publicly that the Democrat Party is the party of white genocide. It’s time to start naming names…

          2. A post so Fed it glows in the dark.

            The “meeting” happens every day, in person, when I discuss this topic with friends, family, and co-workers.

            And strangers, too. Ask strangers at the gas station about gas prices. Ask strangers at the grocery store about food prices. Ask someone wearing a military uniform or a Veterans hat about Afghanistan.

            The leaderless resistance happens one conversation at a time…

          3. Eh- whispering amongst ourselves is *not* quite the action we need. Oh, I agree the ENTIRE weasley San Diego Bar is 100% AWOL in this. but seriously, the same peeps Silently waiting in the gruel line, grousing amongst themselves is kinda ineffective.

          4. Right now, it appears the most useful action is Steve Bannon organizing ordinary Republicans to get involved in the process of elections and vote-counting. Of course Dems are apoplectic about this — how dare Republicans get involved; they’re going to threaten our democracy, etc. But the AZ audit suggested that a good part of (I don’t know how much) of the voter fraud was from mail-in ballots and not the machines. Repubs being there to collect and count will help.

          5. whispering amongst ourselves is *not* quite the action we need

            Especially considering all the threats the Anti-President keeps making against those who refuse to obey,

            FJB

        2. No memes are funny. This is the most serious situation the USA has been in since its inception. We are hanging on by a tattered thread.
          I am all for serious ACTION.
          The reveal is OVER.
          The evidence is massive while the RINOS wait for the Steam rolling Dems to acknowledge what they never will.
          Time to take the lead, be on the offensive in every front in every way possible at all available times.
          Our friends down under are losing their live to tyranny. The photos of the newly built prison in Alice Springs for the “dissenters” is about to receive en masse all who oppose the luciferians.

    2. “This is Our New Declaration of Independence” – Wendy Rogers Unveils Letter Signed by 41 State Legislators From 15 States Calling For a Nationwide Audit and Decertification

      https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/09/new-declaration-independence-wendy-rogers-unveils-letter-signed-41-state-legislators-15-states-calling-nationwide-audit-decertification/

      Today, we finally saw the long-awaited results from the Arizona Senate’s historic full forensic audit of the 2020 Maricopa County election.

      Hundreds of Arizonans showed up to attend the audit report’s grand reveal. The gallery on the inside of the chamber was full and a large crowd watched the livestream video from outside the building on a big screen that was set up earlier in the day.

        1. mainstream media

          https:// twitter.com /realLizUSA /status/1441783043459534848:

          The Washington Post is falsely branding the #AZAudit a “recount.”

          It was an audit, not a recount.

          It doesn’t matter how many times you count a stuffed ballot box – the ballot box was still stuffed!

          It was stuffed with AT LEAST 57K ballots in AZ. That’s what the audit found

      2. “Reported by mainstream media nowhere.”

        Hell, yesterday they asked Jen Saki 🙂 what she thought of the audit upholding the election results.

        Arizona Audit Finds Over 50,000 Illegal Votes; Discrepancies Due to Either ‘Malicious Actions or Severe Incompetence’

        By Debra Heine
        September 24, 2021

        A review of the 2020 election results in Maricopa County Arizona has found over 50,000 illegal ballots, more than enough to overturn the election result.

        The audit, which was conducted at the behest of the Republican-led Arizona state Senate, found over 23,000 “phantom voters,” that is, mail-in votes that were counted without official ballots, and over 11,000 votes do not match the official canvas, among other discrepancies.

        https://amgreatness.com/2021/09/24/arizona-audit-finds-over-50000-illegal-votes-discrepancies-due-to-either-malicious-actions-or-severe-incompetence/

        1. Jeff, I’m eating lunch at elevation 12,500′ in the Mount Evans Wilderness right now, and every mountain I can see from here to the horizon is a mountain that Joe Biden was never elected president of…

          1. God bless America, land that I love

            Stand beside her and guide her

            Through the night with the light from above

            From the mountains to the prairies

            To the oceans white with foam

            Joe Biden was never elected president of my home sweet home

          2. “I’m eating lunch at elevation 12,500′ in the Mount Evans Wilderness right now”

            12k feet up a mountain!?
            pretty good service to be able to post.

          3. pretty good service

            I am anchored west of the Brockville Narrows on the St Lawrence. The connection to internet is awesome.

      3. This is exactly the problem. — pleading, supplication, begging, whining …. It needs to stop. We need to coup the coup.

    3. The treasonous Biden Administration is there to advance the agenda of the One World Order Innsurrection in alliance with China , to destroy America and its inhabitants.
      Even BLM is seeing that they were used to advance a agenda of Corporate Governance to create injustice for all, mass murder of many.

      1. Hey globalists, it looks like some of your pets have slipped the leash.

        BLM leader in NYC threatens national ‘uprising’ over ‘racist’ vaccine mandates after three Texas women attacked hostess at Carmine’s in vax passport feud

        https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10024955/Co-founder-BLM-New-York-threatens-uprising-citys-racist-vaccine-mandates.html

        A Black Lives Matter organizer has pledged a national ‘uprising’ over COVID vaccine mandates, claiming they are ‘racist,’ as cities around the country begin to demand proof of vaccination for most indoor activities.

        Chivona Newsome, a co-founder of Black Lives Matter of Greater New York, made the vow on Monday as NYC restaurants began enforcing legislation requiring all people aged 12 and older to show proof of vaccination to dine inside.

        1. +1,000 to Boo’s post about BLM and CCP Flu vaxx mandates, because this is what the Democrat Party losing 2022, 2024, and beyond looks like.

          Everybody knows the Democrat Party is the party of institutional racism. But some people don’t know that the Democrat Party is also the party of using black people for science experiments.

          Tuskegee Airmen, anyone?

          1. For even more fun, I’ve started to see some news articles where doctors have been encouraging us to wear masks to “prevent flu and other respiratory viruses.”

            In other words, somebody is planting seeds for Masks Forever. I don’t think the populace is going to go for it.

          2. somebody is planting seeds for Masks Forever.
            Recent youtube (John Campbell) talked about people in Great Britain complaining about worst cold they ever had wondering if there were new cold viruses. No new viruses but most likely everyone’s immune system is down because we have NOT been exposed to viruses and pathogens we normally are, because of lock downs, avoiding people and masks. Therefore we are more prone to be adversely affected by these pathogens and viruses. Interesting explanation.

          3. MWR, what’s even worse is that the “health officials” will use the weaker immune system as the excuse to enact even MORE mask mandates. Damn soyboys. Our immune systems need a workout. It’s a cold. Get over it.

    4. He’ll be the bag holder that gets blamed for a stock and housing market collapse, so there’s that. Plus, he has redpilled a lot of people with his vaxx “mandate” and FUBAR-ing the Afghanistan pullout. The entire cabinet is a bunch of sick degenerates. 6uild 6ack 6etter

    5. We know that 99.999% of Rapey Joe voters are unarmed, so it’s not like there will be any consequences.

      Unlike those who harassed Republicans during the the Trump admin, those who harass Dems will be arrested and prosecuted by Soros backed DA’s.

    6. Back in the military we gave blanket parties to those who fooked it up for everyone else. Save the world fook up a cucked noodle arm.

  12. What is this going to do to CA shack prices?

    Millions in Fire-Ravaged California Risk Losing Home Insurance

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-09-25/millions-in-fire-ravaged-california-risk-losing-home-insurance?srnd=premium-middle-east&sref=ibr3A0ff

    A California moratorium guaranteeing insurance in wildfire-threatened areas will lapse Saturday, putting 347,000 homes in Pasadena and other Los Angeles foothills communities at the mercy of the market.

    As many as 2.4 million homes are at risk of losing protection in 2021 as year-long grace periods expire – though new disasters may extend their shields. In all, 18 percent of the state’s households could effectively lose protection, the largest single group since the moratorium law took effect three years ago.

  14. The globalists and their Democrat-Bolshevik Quislings are getting more strident in their calls for “re-education” of anyone who doesn’t toe the globalist line. Even some of their fellow commies are getting nervous, probably because they’re smart enough to realize its not wise to make threats to “re-educate” Deplorables while the latter are still armed to the teeth.

    Bill Maher slams Whoopi Goldberg for acting like ‘Chairman Mao’ after she said anyone who doesn’t agree with black national anthem needs to be ‘re-educated’

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10027677/Bill-Maher-slams-Whoopi-Goldberg-claiming-need-one-national-anthem.html

    Bill Maher has slammed ‘The View’ host Whoopi Goldberg after she said America needs a separate black national anthem in order to ‘reeducate people’.

    Maher had hit out at the NFL two weeks ago after Alicia Keys performed Lift Every Voice and Sing – otherwise known as the black national anthem – at a Thursday night football game.

  15. Oh dear….

    Chinese Builder Sunac Seeks ‘Policy Support’ as Sentiment Sinks

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-09-24/chinese-builder-sunac-seeks-policy-support-as-sentiment-sinks?sref=ibr3A0ff

    Chinese developer Sunac China Holdings Ltd. has sought help from a city government during a soured market, the latest sign that the nation’s property slowdown and the crisis at Evergrande are weighing on builders.

    Sunac asked authorities in eastern Shaoxing to offer “special policy support” because operations in the city have become difficult, according to a letter from a subsidiary to the local government and seen by Bloomberg.

    1. Now that one Chinese real estate cockroach has wandered into plain sight, it seems inevitable that others are soon to follow.

      How long are Chinese financial authorities likely to sit back and watch this play out before they announce the need for bailouts to stem the systemic risk tide?

      1. before they announce the need for bailouts

        For all we know they have already quietly bailed out the other players and Evergrande was allowed to fail for political reasons. This is a communist dictatorship, there is no need for transparency of any kind.

      2. The Chinese have already announced they will exempt all foreigners from their chosen form of what you call ‘bail out’.

    1. electing globalist Quislings

      A Hobson’s choice in a rigged system isn’t an election. Your schadenfreude is misplaced and tiresome.

        1. Posted this a few months ago. Worth the watch despite poor quality. 58 minutes.
          Vote Scam – The Stealing of America’s Elections・(only) 7,605 views ・Apr 23, 2011
          https://youtu.be/1oA4nDuuBOg?t=30
          Book:
          Votescam: The Stealing of America (Forbidden Bookshelf Book 15) by James M. Collier, Kenneth F. Collier
          https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/26833605-votescam
          “The groundbreaking investigation into the corruption of American democracy, beginning at the voting booth.
          This book is the culmination of a 25-year investigation into computerized vote fraud in the United States. Journalists James and Kenneth Collier pose the question, “Why can’t we vote the bastards out?” Their answer: “Because we didn’t even vote the bastards in.”

        1. I kinda thought Boo was Palmetto. Jeez, you can’t tell the players without a scorecard 😁 I’m not very good at recognizing posters who have changed their names, anyway.

          3. Knock, knock.
            Who’s there?
            Boo Randy.
            Boo Randy who?
            Realtors are liars.

            Non sequitur RAL. Yours are much better 😁

    2. Like the USA, I don’t Australians have elected anyone to public office for about 20 years with maybe a surprise exception here and there.

  17. Denver lawlessness is spreading to the suburbs.

    1 dead, 2 injured in shooting at Walgreens in Broomfield, police say

    Full story on 9News website.

    1. I can’t see myself living here (south Denver suburbs, Arapahoe County) more than another year and a half.

      Without getting into specifics because of doxx, I’ll just say it has to do with reciprocity agreements for an electrician’s license, and getting licensed in another state.

      The recent *indefinite* closure of Civic Center Park in downtown Denver because of feces, needles, rodents, and the criminal behavior of its two-legged houseless inhabitants confirms what all of us already knew: vote like California, become California…

  18. AZ Audit Team Caught Maricopa County Deleting Election Files

    by Jamie White
    September 25th 2021, 12:03 pm

    “First and foremost, we need to remember that we do have that 22-month federal mandate,” Cotton said. “So it’s clear that at least what existed on the EMS when we received it as part of this audit we did not have the time period covered by that federal mandate as it was supposed to be covered.”

    Cotton then explained how his team identified the time stamps for when the files were deleted and altered by Maricopa County officials.

    “We have captured screen shots of Maricopa County people at the keyboards during those time periods,” Cotton said, adding he also examined video feeds showing exactly when these Maricopa County officials were at the computer tampering with election data

    The Arizona audit of the 2020 election found that Maricopa County officials deleted election-related computer data the day before the voting machines were handed over to the audit team.

    Digital forensic expert and analyst Ben Cotton reminded the audience at the audit presentation that election materials are federally mandated to be preserved for 22 months, but some of the materials examined in the audit showed they were either tampered with or deleted entirely.

    “First and foremost, we need to remember that we do have that 22-month federal mandate,” Cotton said. “So it’s clear that at least what existed on the EMS when we received it as part of this audit we did not have the time period covered by that federal mandate as it was supposed to be covered.”

    Cotton then explained how his team identified the time stamps for when the files were deleted and altered by Maricopa County officials.

    “We have captured screen shots of Maricopa County people at the keyboards during those time periods,” Cotton said, adding he also examined video feeds showing exactly when these Maricopa County officials were at the computer tampering with election data.

    Cotton’s revelation was met with applause from the audience during the hearing.

    Arizona Rep. Warren Petersen (R) noted the audit “numbers don’t reconcile” with the certified election results, and said it appears Maricopa County “broke the law with duplicate ballots.”

    “Where do we go from here? I think there’s legislation and law enforcement that needs to be involved,” Petersen said.

    https://www.infowars.com/posts/bombshell-az-audit-team-caught-maricopa-county-deleting-election-files/

    1. The elephant in the room. These aren’t vaccines. This is new technology gene altering expierment that they don’t know what long term results will be, and the short term adverse effects are unacceptable.
      Big Pharmacy having no liability on this lab rat expierment is the first problem. Fake news censoring dispute and data to the lack of safety of these junk injections is criminal.
      Scientists and Drs from 35 Countries held a press conference last week, calling to stop the vaccines, but didn’t reach mainstream news in USA.

      The Pandemic was based on fraud to begin with, with fake testing and lack of treatment in hospitals and the fraud of listing all deaths Covid.
      China, releases this disease and Dr Fauci funded this research with a foreign rival. But Dr Fauci is the Spokesperson for the response to this Pandemic, in the US. Biden mandating a lab rat expierment so they can continue to subject populations to non stop jabs .
      Big Pharmacy corrupted the medical profession, the FDA and they were already the third cause of death in US by pharmaceutical deaths.
      So, the concept of herd immunity by constant jabs , over the contrived global pandemic, is a new weapon of control and destruction.
      Biden of course will also push Climate Control Tyranny as the next leg of the takeover by fraud.

      So, to compare this vaccine tyranny with any prior vaccine program , is comparing apples with oranges. The second it was known that China unleashed this disease, with Fauci Funding the creation of enhanced disease , right in time to rig a election and destroy economies by contrived lockdowns , was the time for scheme to be stopped in its tracts.

  19. CEO of Moderna Says Even Young Will Need to Take Vaccine Booster Shots Indefinitely

    Indefinitely. As in forever.

    How quickly we went from “boosters are a conspiracy theory” to this. Oh, and pills, you’re going to need to take pills every day.

    The future is so bright, I need to wear shades.

    3. If this pandemic taught me one thing, it’s to go to primary sources, instead of playing games of Twister with the stupid news media.
      So, here is the actual interview from Stephane Bancel, as told to a Swiss newspaper (you may need to translate to English): https://www.nzz.ch/wirtschaft/moderna-chef-bancel-in-einem-jahr-ist-die-pandemie-vorbei-ld.1646709

      I’m not feeling very articulate today, so I’ll just say I’m much more optimistic than these greedy CEOs. I think we’ll be masks off by Christmas, and within a couple years the variants, vaccine/dosage, and treatments will be all sorted out.

      1. Here is a link in English:

        https://summit.news/2021/09/23/ceo-of-moderna-says-even-young-will-need-to-take-vaccine-booster-shots-indefinitely/

        “You can either get vaccinated and have a good winter. Or you don’t do it and risk getting sick and possibly even ending up in hospital,” said the Moderna CEO.

        Bancel says life will return to normal “in a year,” but that this will be dependent on people continuing to receive regular COVID-19 booster jabs.

        I seem to recall being promised last year that if 60-70% got jabbed that 2021 would be back to normal. I also love the guarantee of a “good winter”. Never mind that I’ll have to wear a face diaper regardless and I could still get sick anyway . Of course, they say that if I get sick, it’ll only be a case of the sniffles. Promises, promises.

        1. Here are some deets on why 70% is no longer enough. Years ago, modelers worked out how much of a population needs to be vaccinated in order to stop spread (herd immunity), based on R0 value and the effectiveness of the vaccine.

          Here are some examples:
          Mumps: R0=4-7… herd immunity at 75% vax
          Diphtheria: R0=6-7 … herd immunity at 85% vax
          Measles: R0=12-18 … herd immunity at ~90% vax

          (all of these vaccine, btw, require boosters)

          Alpha COVID is estimated to have an R0 value of ~3, less than mumps, and the mRNA vaccines had been 90% effective. That’s why we would have gotten herd immunity around 70%. At the time, the CDC was correct.

          But Delta COVID is estimated to have an R0 value of 6-7, and the mRNA vaccine are only 70% effective. So we would need a vax% closer to 85%, like for diphtheria. Sorry, but them’s the breaks. You can’t blame the CDC for this.

          Between vaxxing and infections, I think we will get to herd immunity soon, especially now that schools are in session and kids are spreaders.

          Source: https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/article/herd-immunity/?ncid=txtlnkusaolp00000618

          2. Here are some deets on why 70% is no longer enough.

            I don’t care. My point is that the “experts” are consistently wrong about everything.

          1. Per Geert Vanden Bossche, that’ll require a large group of “vacuum cleaner” unvaccinated. I just finished watching a 2-hour video of he and Robert Malone with Philip McMillan.

      2. I think we’ll be masks off by Christmas, and within a couple years the variants, vaccine/dosage, and treatments will be all sorted out.

        Consider the possibility that the masks don’t work and/or that the “vaccines” for the now extinct Wuhan original variant don’t “work”. How is that going to be “sorted out”?

        1. possibility that the masks don’t work

          The thinking at WHO/CDC/FDA 🙄 is to use masks and distancing to slow the spread as to not overwhelm the hospitals. I don’t agree with the reasoning but I understand it. (btw, I see people masking, but NOBODY is distancing, even in grocery stores.)

          However, I’m not confident that masks stop the spread of Delta. This might be a good thing. Faster spread means we’ll all be exposed and get immunity all the quicker. When the virus runs out of non-immune people to infect, then case count will decrease. The CDC will try to credit the masks for the success, but more likely it will be due to herd immunity. But no matter the cause, if case count drops, then the CDC will be forced to lift the mask mandates.*

          As for variants, I think of it this way: suppose you learned to drive on a 1995 Toyota Corolla. Your old Corolla dies and gets junked, and suddenly you’re forced to drive a 2020 Cadillac Escalade. Even if you didn’t train on it and it’s very different, the Escalade still a vehicle. You know, roughly, how to operate it, but you’re more likely — but not necessarily 100% certain — to get into an accident. Vaccines are similar.
          They can still provide some immunity against new variants. **

          As for sorting out, here is what I expect to happen in the next few years:
          1. The virus will eventually run out of viable mutations and variants, and settle on a dominant variant. This will make research much easier as the virus won’t be such a moving target.
          2. Just like the virus itself, vaccines will evolve and compete, and the best one will eventually prevail (assuming that smaller vaccines are not suppressed by Big Pharma). My guess is it will be a next-gen vaccine tailored to the final variant, probably with one booster like most vaccines. J&J, Novavax, AZ, China/Russia…injection or nasal vaccine… It’s entirely possible (I hope) that Pfizer and Moderna shots will be superseded by a next-gen vaccine that is safer, provides stronger and longer protection, and doesn’t need endless boosters.
          3. Research on treatments — namely Ivermectin and HCQ — will complete their gold-standard double-blind RCT studies. If those studies show success, then FDA will have no more excuses to deny doctors from prescribing them, even if off label. I think treatment is the tack that the third-world of the world will take. India has already proven it. The pills are cheap and room temperature.

          One thing I *don’t* believe will happen: The greedy CEO at Moderna suggested that 6 billion people will need to be double-injected yearly. Apparently he thinks that developed countries will foot the bill for this, lining his pockets in the process? Not gonna happen. The US can’t afford it and China/Russia don’t care.

          —————
          *that is, if the CDC doesn’t try to mask mandate us for “flu.” I’ve already seen news articles where doctors want us to wear masks for flu. They’re planting seeds.
          **Even the receptionist at my optometrist was able to understand that analogy. It’s too bad the vaccine refusers don’t seem to have that ability. They continue to insist that vaccines are either 100% or 0%.

          1. This is simply a unjustified assault on global populations using a epic medical fraud to bring on a One World Order of Medical Tyranny / Climate Control Tyranny , by Monopoly Corporations in alliance with China.
            Seriously, under these conditions of a treasonous insurrection of US and other Countries , whereby Government is treating populations like slaves and lab rats , taking the jabs isn’t advised .

      3. I think we’ll be masks off by Christmas

        We’ve been masks off here in my county since April. And the world didn’t end.

    1. Good one. An observation though, that image is 18MB! It should be more like 180KB, if that. It loads very slowly.

    2. Push people too far and something is going to explode. They duped a couple of hundred people to walk through the Capitol like tourists on January 6, had the seven to eight-hundred thousand people who were actually there that day actually attacked you would have had an insurrection and it would have been ugly.

      1. agreed, except for me, it would have been beautiful, not ugly. (i know what you meant.)

        we have to get back to a reality where the government is afraid of its people again.

  23. Who would of thought that the place that employed you would dictate that you had to take a experimental jab , or you get fired.
    Who would of thought that the Medical system would deny medical services if you don’t take a jab, even when you pay your medical insurance.
    Who would of thought you would be denied engaging in commerce and restaurants and concerts and sporting events , if you don’t take expierment jabs ongoingly by Big Pharmacy, that has no liability on these new technology jabs.
    Who would of thought that the first amendment would be determined by Monopoly owned news and they would censor any dispute to their narratives of misinformation and fraud and cover up.
    What Country voted for a One World Order ruled by Global Monopolies that dictate to Government what to do. That this would be a global Innsurrection where Governments act in lock step on this take over Dictorship of mass destruction and assault on all freedoms and Constitional protections.
    Who would of thought that they would criminally rig the national election to put in Puppets in White House, Congress and Senate, that would assert the take over agenda of Private Party Globlist Monopoly Corporation and psychopathic billionaires , that plan a Dictorship of slaves with no rights.
    The seeds of this started with the first Progressive President Woodrow Wilson, who set the stage for Big government , and Global one World order, and elite rule , rather than a Constitutional Republic.
    Wilson, who had the most education of any President , wanted to destroy government by the people . Wilson thought the highly educated like himself should dictate policy, not government by the people. Wilson was also a racist on top of everything else in his Ivory tower world of Elites.
    Big Government has destroyed the intent of the Founders of this Government .

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