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Many Who Bought Earlier Are Aghast

A press release from the Coronado Times. “Record home price appreciation in the last few years has pushed tappable home equity to new heights! According to Black Knight, the third quarter of 2021 saw a nearly $250 billion increase in tappable equity—a record. Did you know you can use a cash-out refinance as a way to put a down payment on an investment property? With Griffin Funding Bayside’s DSCR no income investment property loan, you don’t have to show your personal income or tax returns. Qualify simply off the rental income of the investment property.”

“Year-over-year, more than a million cash-out refis were originated. In many cases, homeowners take a cash-out loan on their home and buy a rental property with cash. When they want to invest again, they do a cash-out refinance on their existing investment property to buy another one. Specializing in VA and Non-QM loans, we have access to wholesale rates and offer to beat or match any rate on the market!”

From Motley Fool. “Because the home guarantees the loan, mortgage loans are secured loans — which is why the rates are lower than with many other kinds of debt. The risk of loss is lower for lenders. But, to ensure that the house acts as sufficient collateral, lenders set a maximum loan-to-value ratio. That’s the limit on the amount of money they are willing to loan you to a certain percentage of your home’s value. Many lenders will make loans with a loan-to-value ratio higher than 80%. In fact, some will allow you to borrow as much as 97% of the value of the home.”

From Nerd Wallet. “National averages provide a good big-picture look at what’s happening in the housing market, and in the third quarter, that story is a slight improvement over the last: Prices were down a smidgen (1%) and inventory up 22% nationwide, quarter over quarter. But homes were listed at 5.3 times the median first-time home buyer income, when three times your income is a long-standing affordability rule of thumb.”

“The most affordable metro areas in the third quarter, as usual, are in the Midwest and Rust Belt regions. They include Pittsburgh, where homes are listed at 3.1 times first-time buyer income, Cleveland (3.3), St. Louis (3.4), Buffalo (3.6) and Baltimore and Minneapolis (3.9). The least affordable metro areas for first-time buyers are, once again, all in California. They include Los Angeles (12.1), San Diego (9.2), San Jose (8.3), Sacramento (7.6) and Riverside (7.4).”

“Some metros, however, saw price drops that were likely noticeable. Prices fell double digits from the last quarter in three metros analyzed: Pittsburgh (down 12%), Cincinnati (dropped 10%) and Milwaukee (down 10%), and when compared with last year, the decreases were even more significant. Prices fell double digits, year over year, in 10 metros, including a 21% drop in Milwaukee.”

“The high list prices are no doubt luring home sellers into the market, and we saw the number of active listings climb 31% compared with last quarter. This is particularly notable as we typically see home listings begin to wane in the third quarter. Some metros saw quarterly increases big enough that hopeful buyers would notice their options expanding. Thirteen metros saw inventory rise 40% or more. Available homes in Austin, known for topping lists, rose 73%.”

The Tribune Democrat in Pennsylvania. “Almost 20% of Johnstown’s population lives in public housing or Section 8 rental units. As the city’s overall population continues to decline, however, the number of people living in public housing or Section 8 grows as a percentage, which affects the overall poverty rate. Johnstown’s poverty rate was 34.3% between 2009 and 2013, according to Census data. It now stands at about 38.5%. The federal government will not likely close and tear down usable housing stock in one municipality just to spend money constructing similar buildings in other communities.”

“‘My understanding is they’re looking at it like a federal program,’ said Michael Alberts, Johnstown Housing Authority’s acting executive director. ‘They don’t care that Johnstown’s population has declined. If we told them that, ‘Hey, our population has declined. We don’t need this public housing. We want to knock down a couple buildings.’ They’re going to tell us, ‘You’re at 99% occupancy rate. You’re crazy. No way, no how.'”

From Stuff New Zealand. “Could we be building too many houses? Since March, new home consents have been at levels unseen since the building industry’s 1970s heyday. And there is more to come. The Ministry of Business Innovation and Employment’s latest National Construction Pipeline Report forecasts 265,000 new dwellings will be consented over the next six years, at an average of more than 44,000 per year.”

“Does this mean that supply could soon exceed demand, and result in too many homes being built? Economist Tony Alexander cautions against putting too much emphasis on the role of supply in the house price equation. ‘This is a red herring. Extra supply of a thing will constrain prices, but that’s not the same as saying there are not enough houses for people to occupy. Prices have not soared 39 per cent since March 2020 because population growth has boomed.'”

“Record low interest rates and the temporary removal of loan-to-value ratios were the reason, he said. But the belief in excess demand could prompt over-building – especially if there was a net migration outflow ahead. Many parts of the country do not have shortages, although Auckland does, and this means the end result could be over-supply in some areas, Alexander says. ‘At some point over the next year, we are going to be asking where all the people needed to fill all these new townhouses are going to come from.'”

The Daily Telegraph in Australia. “Properties priced below the Sydney median house price of about $1.25 million have been getting a stronger response from buyers. It comes as agents revealed the fear of missing out that defined the mood of Sydney home seekers earlier this year has been replaced by a fear of overpaying.”

Two reports from Bloomberg. “A wave of selling swept through Chinese developers’ bonds and shares after the sudden plunge in a major property firm’s notes. Trading was halted in six of Shimao’s yuan bonds after they plunged. A bond issued by one of Shimao’s local units suffered the largest haircut in China’s exchange-traded repo market last week, according to Bloomberg-compiled data. Borrowers putting up a Shanghai Shimao Jianshe Co. note due 2025 for collateral get just 35% of the note’s face value as cash, down from 50% the prior week.”

“‘A major price collapse or a downfall of Shimao will cause lapse in confidence in cross-over investment grade names in China property, which acts as the final refuge for the sector,’ according to Anthony Leung, head of fixed income at Metropoly Capital HK. The impact could be more devastating than debt crises at Evergrande or Kaisa because they were of much lower credit quality, he added.”

“Across China, tens of millions of square feet of unfinished apartment buildings — the legacy of a real estate boom gone awry in 2021 — are derailing countless dreams of owning a home. In a country where private homeownership was only legalized two decades ago, ordinary Chinese are discovering how quickly fortunes can turn in the housing market. Creeping price declines and plummeting sales in recent months have called into question the way freewheeling property developers have financed, built and marketed homes to the masses.”

“Many smaller developers also followed Evergrande’s familiar strategy: borrow heavily, build aggressively — and make buyers pay in full upfront, sometimes before ground is even broken. Until the bottom fell out, nearly nine out of every 10 homes in China were ‘pre-sold,’ according to Hongta Securities Co. Buyer protections commonly used abroad, such as escrow accounts and installment payments, have tended to be weak.”

“The result is a mirror image of the 2008 subprime fiasco. Back then, in the U.S., it was homebuyers who got in over their heads. This time, in China, it’s builders. Gary Chen is one of the 1.6 million Evergrande customers who’s waiting for his home to be finished. In 2019, Chen plowed the equivalent of $55,000 — 13 years of savings, he says — into a three-bedroom apartment in the Jiu Long Bay area of Kunming, the provincial capital of Yunnan. Two years later, construction is stalled. Dozens of cranes loomed beside the unfinished tower block, Chen said last month. The shallow foundations were soaked with water. Some 4,000 units remained unfinished.”

“‘It never occurred to me that things would go wrong for a developer of this scale,’ says Chen, 33, who declined to reveal his job.”

“Many who bought earlier are aghast. One recent buyer, who asked to be identified only by his surname, Tan, said he purchased a unit in the Evergrande Mansion development in Wenzhou, in southeastern China, only to have the developer slash prices there by a third, to below going rates. In the eastern city of Taixing, another buyer, Yin, said he regretted purchasing from Evergrande before the company’s troubles came to light, even though his unit was delivered on time.”

“Yin figures selling now will be difficult given the damage to Evergrande’s reputation and various construction flaws in his building. ‘Prices will drop for sure,’ he says.”

“And so what once seemed unthinkable now appears quite possible: the heady days of selling homes in China before they’re built might be threatened. Many developers remain unprepared for the worst. A nationwide ban on pre-sales could wipe out as many as half of small builders, according to Zhang Dawei, an analyst at Centaline Group.”

“‘Developers could be forced to gradually shift away from pre-sales to sale of completed projects in the future, though that’s going to take a while,’ said Ziv Ang, a Kuala Lumpur-based analyst at UOB Kay Hian. ‘The current financing environment remains tough for most developers, meaning they would be under huge pressure if they were to make that shift.'”

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      1. “These cash out refi people are broke @ss loosers.”

        Yep. They supply me with all the bread and butter I could possibly eat.

        Easy money.

  1. ‘you don’t have to show your personal income or tax returns. Qualify simply off the rental income of the investment property…Year-over-year, more than a million cash-out refis were originated. In many cases, homeowners take a cash-out loan on their home and buy a rental property with cash. When they want to invest again, they do a cash-out refinance on their existing investment property to buy another one. Specializing in VA and Non-QM loans’

    Ima runnin’ – with scissors!

    ‘Many lenders will make loans with a loan-to-value ratio higher than 80%. In fact, some will allow you to borrow as much as 97% of the value of the home’

    Rock solid lending right there.

    1. some will allow you to borrow as much as 97% of the value of the home.”
      And 100% for VA and Rural but more importantly housing loans (chip), & Low Income loans. These can get assistance from non-profits so even though the LTV says 97%, if you exclude the freebies via the Charity (part of which usually is funded by YOUR tax dollars) the “Home Owner” has put $0.0 dollars invested in said property.
      Keep in mind that in some/many(?) cases numerous charities combine to provide assistance to help that person become a “home owner.”

      1. Speaking of charities, every once in a blue moon, in my little burg, Habitat for Humanity will build one or two shacks, using volunteer labor and donated material, and make a big fanfare when they deliver them to some poor shmucks, who still have to take out a mortgage, and pretend they are making a difference.

        Meanwhile, City Hall and the County make it very, very expensive to subdivide land (you have to purcha$e water rights for the subdivision). And since water is at a premium out here, that’s fine. But then they should be honest and discourage low income people from living here, instead of holding endless meetings and town halls about “affordable housing”, which is clearly not what they want.

      2. As I’ve explained before, I have been privy to some transactions where through UHS shenanigans, the loan is actually over 100% on these subprime deals.

    2. ‘Many lenders will make loans with a loan-to-value ratio higher than 80%. In fact, some will allow you to borrow as much as 97% of the value of the home’

      As long as the fed can keep housing values rising fast enough owners can borrow against the house in order to make future payments. It’s a virtuous circle!

  2. I think I’ve seen this movie before.

    ‘The least affordable metro areas for first-time buyers are, once again, all in California. They include Los Angeles (12.1), San Diego (9.2), San Jose (8.3), Sacramento (7.6) and Riverside (7.4)’

    And these sh$tholes have the highest loan caps. So why would they lend twice or more to the most expensive? Could that be why it’s expensive in the first place?

    Sacré bleu!

    ‘Some metros, however, saw price drops that were likely noticeable. Prices fell double digits from the last quarter in three metros analyzed: Pittsburgh (down 12%), Cincinnati (dropped 10%) and Milwaukee (down 10%), and when compared with last year, the decreases were even more significant. Prices fell double digits, year over year, in 10 metros, including a 21% drop in Milwaukee’

    What happens to those 97% loans now?

    ‘The high list prices are no doubt luring home sellers into the market, and we saw the number of active listings climb 31% compared with last quarter. This is particularly notable as we typically see home listings begin to wane in the third quarter. Some metros saw quarterly increases big enough that hopeful buyers would notice their options expanding. Thirteen metros saw inventory rise 40% or more. Available homes in Austin, known for topping lists, rose 73%’

    Again, thousands upon thousands of shacks appear out of nowhere.

    1. “The least affordable metro areas for first-time buyers are, once again, all in California. They include Los Angeles (12.1), San Diego (9.2), San Jose (8.3), Sacramento (7.6) and Riverside (7.4).”

      Woohooo . . . I’m number 4! I’m number 4 !!

      take THAT mr. snooty hamptons del vista lago schmago grand isle reserve. my taxes are higher than yours AND I get lower quality of life.

      sending mr banker that GG belt as thanks.

      wear it pride. maybe even gay pride. no judgement.

  3. ‘Prices have not soared 39 per cent since March 2020 because population growth has boomed’…Record low interest rates and the temporary removal of loan-to-value ratios were the reason, he said’

    Bingo Tony, have a banana! You can see these people set NZ up for a fall.

  4. ‘A major price collapse or a downfall of Shimao will cause lapse in confidence in cross-over investment grade names in China property, which acts as the final refuge for the sector’

    Another day, another company you never heard of goes poof.

    ‘The impact could be more devastating than debt crises at Evergrande or Kaisa because they were of much lower credit quality, he added’

    Lower than the goldfish seller?

    ‘Gary Chen is one of the 1.6 million Evergrande customers who’s waiting for his home to be finished. In 2019, Chen plowed the equivalent of $55,000 — 13 years of savings, he says — into a three-bedroom apartment in the Jiu Long Bay area of Kunming, the provincial capital of Yunnan. Two years later, construction is stalled. Dozens of cranes loomed beside the unfinished tower block, Chen said last month. The shallow foundations were soaked with water. Some 4,000 units remained unfinished’

    ‘It never occurred to me that things would go wrong for a developer of this scale’

    It was cheaper than renting Gary.

  5. But homes were listed at 5.3 times the median first-time home buyer income, when three times your income is a long-standing affordability rule of thumb.”

    Heckova job, “Zimbabwe Ben” Bernanke, Yellen the Felon, & Jerome Powell.

  6. As the city’s overall population continues to decline, however, the number of people living in public housing or Section 8 grows as a percentage, which affects the overall poverty rate.

    Parasitism and dependency are supreme virtues in the eyes of the Democratic Party, and must be further encouraged and enabled.

  7. I came across these:

    Column: Lacking scientific support for their views, anti-vaxxers opt for physical intimidation

    ‘She said the men identified themselves to her as associates of America’s Frontline Doctors, a prominent anti-vaccination group that has promoted nostrums to treat COVID-19 such as hydroxychloroquine and ivermectin, which have been found to be useless for the purpose, and opposes mask rules.’

    ‘The reason for the intensifying strategy of physical confrontation and intimidation isn’t hard to determine. Anti-vaccination activists and opponents of social distancing can’t point to scientific support for their positions, because their claims are fictional.’

    https://www.latimes.com/business/story/2021-12-10/covid-anti-vax-confrontations

    ‘Sick of it’: Melburnians turn on anti-vaccine protesters

    ‘Thousands of protesters have hit the streets of Melbourne again over vaccine mandates and Covid rules – but fed up locals have cracked.’

    ‘And these wanna be fascists think there’s some line they’re “reclaiming” It was “anti-lockdown” but we’re not locked down. Then 95% of Aussies listened to doctors and got vaxxed – so much for their anti-vax crap I think they just want to be angry’

    ‘The #Melbourneprotest has one aim, and that’s to cause trouble in Melbourne. Shoppers have reported being too scared to visit the city. The protests are destroying small business and costing jobs. This is what domestic terrorism looks like!’

    https://www.news.com.au/national/victoria/politics/thousands-of-protesters-expected-to-hit-melbourne-streets-over-vaccine-mandates/news-story/f175cfdd171b4211e25f5e6ae0a83b60

    1. Gosh, we’d better hurry up & build a gulag for those “domestic terrorists.” Say, do you suppose we could save some time by licensing the blueprints for the CCP’s Uighur concentration camps?

      1. “Gosh, we’d better hurry up & build a gulag for those “domestic terrorists.”

        Being that yesterday was my first experience with someone not wanting to be in a vehicle with an unvaccinated person, me. That along with the installed one reading “this is a pandemic of the unvaccinated” I’m starting to wonder how long before someone suggests an unvaccinated badge like the yellow star the Nazis’ forced on Jews.

          1. And I’ll add that this is not intended to be humorous in any way or trivialize the death of millions of people, but it is an accurate description of what has already happened in Australia, Western Europe, Canada, and emphasizes how we can never allow that to happen here in the U.S.

          2. I’m not getting a “booster”
            I have come to the same conclusion, and got a bunch of Crap from my brother for not getting it.

          3. Just got a notice where I work that you have to have a booster by Jan 14 or you’ll no longer have access to campus buildings.

            Since I’m not getting a booster for the one and done after 15 days to slow the curve, I guess that’s it for me at that place.

          4. As an employee or student?

            Corporate sites are often referred to as campuses. For instance, my employer has several, including campuses in: Redwood Shores, Santa Clara, Broomfield, CO, etc.

          5. “Corporate sites are often referred to as campuses.”

            Agreed. I thought about that after hitting, Post Comment.

            Back in my window cleaning days these office clusters were [insert name] Business Center. I suppose campus is trendy as it implies a gathering of the intelligentsia.

    2. So they ignore the protests for months, then say they’re terrorists. But when US cities were being burned night after night, it was mostly peaceful.

    3. Another Study Finds That Natural Immunity Protects Better Against Infection Than the Pfizer Vaccine – The Daily Sceptic
      https://dailysceptic.org/2021/12/10/another-study-finds-that-natural-immunity-protects-better-against-infection-than-the-pfizer-vaccine/

      (snip)

      “At the end of August, a study was published showing that natural immunity provides much better protection against infection than the Pfizer vaccine. It was described by UCL’s Francois Balloux as ‘a bit of a bombshell’.

      “Subsequent studies have compared natural and vaccine-induced immunity at the cellular level. One found that infection-induced antibodies ‘exhibited superior stability and cross-variant neutralisation breadth’ than vaccine-induced antibodies, suggesting that people who’d already been infected had better immunity against the then-novel Delta variant.”

      1. The Pfizer vaccine is bad vaccine to compare to because efficacy fades sharply over a period of six months. Results are highly dependent on when the researcher did the testing.

        1. It’s not a vaccine. It’s experimental gene manipulation. If we can’t agree on the basic terms there can be no rational discussion.

          1. As one of my closest friends who happens to chair an ivy league university biochem department said, “It’s an experimental biological agent”.

          2. You can’t crack those who pray to the covid cult. Since they refuse to accept God out of prideful sin, they’ve fallen for Fauci-ism and Branch Covidianism.

            Covid is a spiritual battle and we can’t convert those already lost.

          3. It’s not a vaccine.

            Worse yet, it doesn’t even stop the spread of the Wuhoo. So, it’s doing nothing to mitigate the situation. They like to lie and say that if everybody got the injection that they could stop it. Nonsense. They’ve told us it only mitigates symptoms. These liars need to be put in their place.

          4. They’ve told us it only mitigates symptoms.

            Other than being told to believe that, I’ve seen no evidence that it mitigates anything.

          5. And that’s the thing. Doctors are organic chemists and their first order principle is reductionism. Where would an Organic Chemist get the PhD in Computer Science and Systems Theory that would be required to even opine on Information Theoretic therapies? How do you go from reductionist first order principles that deny that anything occurs beyond organic chemistry to all of a sudden being experts in such a narrow and deep topic?

            I worked with the Payor industry in the late 90s and early OOs. Basically what happened is the Payors started mining their claims data, which is 100% where the data lives. Providers were still on paper forms at the time. I’m sure many still are. The “expertise” of doctors couldn’t stand up to the shining light of Big Data. Doctors had ceased to be the authority on medicine by 2000. The incompleteness of Organic Chemistry and Biological reductionism was there for anyone who took the third year class in computability theory to see.

            Did they warn the public that a paradigm shift was occurring and that the current paradigm had advance little from putting leaches on People? Of course not. They silenced the Payors with privacy laws to maintain their control of the narrative, and then quietly built a new paradigm based on CS and Complex Systems theory.

            That’s what the mRNA “vaccines” represent.

        2. What happened to vaccine/symptom reducer?

          BTW you usually wait for a symptom to take a symptom reducer.

    4. Then 95% of Aussies listened to doctors and got vaxxed

      Is that why they are all still wearing face diapers and are sending the infected and “exposed” to concentration camps?

    5. The #Melbourneprotest has one aim, and that’s to cause trouble in Melbourne. Shoppers have reported being too scared to visit the city. The protests are destroying small business and costing jobs. This is what domestic terrorism looks like!’

      Actually, that’s what lockdowns look like.

    6. what the HELL happened to the Aussies? the land of vegemite & mick dundee . . .

      was it all just a grand illusion?!

      I mean, seriously: What the Bloody HELL is going ON down there !?!?

  8. It comes as agents revealed the fear of missing out that defined the mood of Sydney home seekers earlier this year has been replaced by a fear of overpaying.”

    Wait until full-blown panic sets in as the baggies try to flee the central bankers’ imploding asset bubbles & Ponzi markets.

  9. “‘A major price collapse or a downfall of Shimao will cause lapse in confidence in cross-over investment grade names in China property, which acts as the final refuge for the sector,’ according to Anthony Leung, head of fixed income at Metropoly Capital HK.

    Oh dear. Terms like “cross-default” and “cascading defaults” sound vaguely calamitous. But Shirley if this was cause for concern, those astute REIC analysts on CNBC would be sounding the klaxon.

  10. “Yin figures selling now will be difficult given the damage to Evergrande’s reputation and various construction flaws in his building. ‘Prices will drop for sure,’ he says.”

    When housing losses we must eat
    Let us stamp our little feet!

    1. the phrase “it’s not personal, it’s just business” does NOT apply to chinese, indians & russians.
      everything, i mean EVERYTHING is personal!
      just witness the resentment from “Chen” who managed to get a completed apartment (a miracle in itself) but STILL bitches about paying more than someone else.

  11. New York Times opinion piece titled We’re Edging Closer to Civil War (12/12/2021):

    “I see too many uneasy parallels between what was happening nearly 200 years ago and what is happening now. I see this country on the verge of another civil war, as the Calhounian impulse is reborn.

    There are enormous, obvious differences, of course. The civil war I see is not the kind that would leave hundreds of thousands of young men dead in combat. That is not to say that we aren’t seeing spats of violence but rather that this new war will be fought in courts, statehouses and ballot boxes, rather than in the fields.”

    https://archive.md/1yw4K

    This is a Civil War that the globalists will lose ☠

    1. I’d say that the Cold Civil War began decades ago. The Plandemic has just made it less “Cold” than before.

    2. We’re really afraid. We only outnumber them a several millions to one. And we’re armed to the teeth.

      Globalist scum own lots of media. You know what media really is any more? Flapping their pie-holes. That’s all it amounts to.

      For example:

      LET IT SNOW, LET IT SNOW – LET IT SNOW

      https://www.bitchute.com/video/kgqIupRDJOa9/

      17 seconds.

      1. Ben I share these Real Journalist articles here so we can understand how delusional these globalists really are.

        These people believe that the New York Times and Washington Post editorial boards actually reflect the sentiment of the majority.

        Several millions to one, indeed.

        1. We need to get it out. That’s why I posted the LA Times and News.com articles. Both owned by globalist scum.

          1. Both owned by globalist scum.

            Pedo globalist cvck scum. CNN’s Chris Cuomo show was produced by a filthy, criminal pedo sexual predator who was preying on young girls. There are pictures of these two scums smiling with their arms around each other. Now Cuomo himself is under investigation for sexual assault.

            Cuomo’s brother, the former governor of New York, Andrew Cuomo, forced to resign as a sexual predator himself, murdered tens of thousands of elderly to try to spite DJT. These people need to be executed.

          2. Chris Wallace moving from Fox News to CNN+.

            This little runt should have been there long ago. He’s the epitome of everything that’s wrong with media. Probably a kiddie diddler.

          3. I understand that Fox News is more or less controlled opposition in the context of MSM, but Tucker’s interview with Kyle Rittenhouse was the last straw. The whole thing was so contrived, e.g., timing, demeanor, topics, response.

          4. I saw a video thread on Reddit of the night prior to Kyle Rittenhouse arriving in Kenosha depicting the used car lot where the perp #1 was aired-out. Blacks were systematically bashing out windows and vandalizing all of the remaining cars on the lot. In the comments, it was refreshing to see the distressed Reddit snowflake’s comments bemoaning the black’s violent behavior, i.e., having to acknowledge the truth.

      2. Journalist David Frum who recently penned “Let hospitals quietly triage emergency care to serve the unvaccinated last”, was found unconscious and unresponsive this morning. He was taking his usual morning jog on a route used routinely.

        Hey David you should change up those routines while you Globalists insist on Globing.

  12. Johnstown PA is in the middle of bloody nowhere. Looks like one of those Oil-City-ish former factory towns which hasn’t created a job in 25 years. Their poverty will only increase as Baby Boomers, advantaged with paid-off housing and adequate SS checks, die off, leaving behind the poor.

  13. Dove into “The Real Anthony Fauci” last night and I felt like I was reading this blog, but with a lot more detail and footnotes. I’m going to order a half dozen off RFK, Jr.’s website and give them some lefties including the Health Czar of my county who keeps insisting that his subjects wear masks.
    Oh, and Kennedy makes some very unflattering remarks about Trump so that should help reinforce the fact that this is not a right wing conspiracy type book.

  14. DENVER — Denver International Airport (DIA) employees and passengers can schedule an appointment for a COVID-19 booster at the airport on six days in December.

    Pfizer and Moderna vaccines will be offered at the clinic on the fourth floor of the Hotel and Transit Center, on the far northwest side of the DIA plaza, south of the main terminal. Safeway/Albertsons will be administering doses at the clinic.

    Just what I need, a mid air seizure, stroke, DVT or heart attack.

    Speaking of DVT, I was bored yesterday and channel surfed off the antenna, I sometimes catch the local news to get a taste of the current Covid fear pron.

    What caught my eye was a PSA for DVT (deep vein thrombosis, AKA blood clots), including warning signs and an 800 number to call.

    Gee, I wonder wonder why they’re doing that?

    1. LOL@ I’m flying out of DEN in a few days, in a middle seat. Hope my neighbors don’t die on me mid flight…

      1. “I’m flying out of DEN in a few days, in a middle seat. Hope my neighbors don’t die on me mid flight…”

        instant window seat upgrade

      2. Hope my neighbors don’t die on me mid flight…

        I hope your pilot and copilot don’t kick the bucket mid flight.

    2. PSA for DVT

      I’m getting similar ads on the radio, DC area. ER doc describes symptoms and says go to the ER.

  15. There’s a day of reckoning coming… I don’t know when it is or what will spark it… but it’s going to be a very dark day for the deputized county and state health department dimwits.

  16. My grandson’s business in Pasadena TX gets truckloads of Amazon returns to sell. Their whole cargo load was blown apart in Kentucky killing the drivers . Yikes

    1. The FED has created a perpetual bubble blowing machine. There is zero reason for lumber to be doing what it’s doing. I was driving through Oregon a month or so ago, and I passed what was a gigantic temporary lumber yard of sorts. It was 10 acres of dimensional lumber stacked as high as you could imagine. I don’t know how many trucks worth, but it has never been there before. There is lumber coming out of every nook and cranny you can imagine.

    2. “The so-called stumpage fee, or what lumber companies pay to land owners for trees, for Louisiana pine sawtimber on March 31 was $22.75 per short ton, according to the latest data from price provider TimberMart-South. That’s the lowest since 2011.”

  17. Conspiracy theory becoming fact:

    New Zealand Prime Minister Admits “There’s Not Going To Be An End Point To This Vaccination Program”

    Forget about boosters. This is now a subscription program.

    1. And those island nations are now prison islands.

      At least here in the USA lower 48 I can still visit a variety of landscapes / climates when flying becomes illegal.

        1. The road shoulders are littered with donkey carts and down, crippled and exhausted DebtDonkeys….. Like everywhere else.

        2. I doubt Brandon will try to restrict interstate road travel. There were some Dems who asked him to boot the “unclean” off of airliners this month, but nothing seems to have happened in that regard.

    2. Well technically there’s no end point to vaccination programs for measles or polio either, not on a population level. Of course, it ends on the individual level. I guess you could say that there’s no end to tetanus vaxxes either, but that’s not contagious. But I don’t think people are going to tolerate a yearly COVID vax, when each injection is its own new risk for side effects.

  18. Timcast Live airing now, at 6:55pm MST he starts talking about the CNN pedophilia scandal.

    They can’t bury this story.

    And we’re not gonna let them bury this story…

      1. “Mean tweets” bad, pedophilia acceptable.”

        There are no words for the fact that this statement is true.

    1. CNN pedophilia scandal

      He barely touched on it before going to superchats. I keep hearing about Tim Pool from LawTube so I went to the episode with Steve Bannon that oxide mentioned. It’s funny that the comments say former Trump staffers appear to be the best guests. I’m not impressed with Tim Pool. It must be why the dermatologist I follow has more subscribers.

  19. The English Premier Soccer League might have to shutdown for a while, not because of any government decree, but because their “fully vaccinated” players are coming down with COVID. In just the past week 42 players tested positive. The league is concerned the clubs soon won’t have enough healthy players to field a team.

  20. And that’s the thing. Doctors are organic chemists and their first order principle is reductionism. Where would an Organic Chemist get the PhD in Computer Science and Systems Theory that would be required to even opine on Information Theoretic therapies? How do you go from reductionist first order principles that deny that anything occurs beyond organic chemistry to all of a sudden being experts in such a narrow and deep topic?

    I worked with the Payor industry in the late 90s and early OOs. Basically what happened is the Payors started mining their claims data, which is 100% where the data lives. Providers were still on paper forms at the time. I’m sure many still are. The “expertise” of doctors couldn’t stand up to the shining light of Big Data. Doctors had ceased to be the authority on medicine by 2000. The incompleteness of Organic Chemistry and Biological reductionism was there for anyone who took the third year class in computability theory to see.

    Did they warn the public that a paradigm shift was occurring and that the current paradigm had advance little from putting leaches on People? Of course not. They silenced the Payors with privacy laws to maintain their control of the narrative, and then quietly built a new paradigm based on CS and Complex Systems theory.

    That’s what the mRNA “vaccines” represent.

    1. It’s simpler than that. The purpose off the mRNA vaxxes is to harm. Big pharma knows after years of animal testing that they kill. And the WEF is using the vaxx to prepare for its Great Reset.

      As for MD’s not saying anything:
      1) They believe everything the CDC tells them. They aren’t scientists, they are technicians.
      2) They are threatened with job loss and loss of license if they don’t promote The Narrative.
      3) Those that refuse to obey are censored. You will only hear what they have to say on alternative media, which means Joe SixPack won’t hear the truth.

      1. Since I’ve had a run of bad luck health-wise in the last couple of years, I’ve been seeing way too many doctors than I’d like. In general, their offices aren’t crowded, depending on the specialty. When I mention this to whatever doctor I’m seeing, they’re suddenly interested (as opposed to hearing about my problem.) I bring it up to every doctor I see now, just to see their reaction. This month’s highlight visit was an orthopedist that was arrested seven years ago for throwing “drug fueled orgies” at his home, made the Daily Mail. My PCP assures me he’s a nice guy. Runner up was my ophthalmologist who removed my cataracts a few years ago. I have been complaining ever since that one eye is not quite right. His response was that he sees a little cloudiness in the other – did I want it fixed? 😂 That mortgage isn’t going to pay itself, you know.

        The joke here in Las Vegas is if you want to see a good doctor, go to LA.

        1. Runner up was my ophthalmologist who removed my cataracts a few years ago

          Did he replace your eyeball lenses, or did he just “clean it” with a laser?

          1. Lenses. One is fine, the other he lasered after I complained. Same immediately afterward and has gotten progressively worse.

          2. I’ve heard that sometimes a film forms on the replacement lens, and that it can be cleaned up a bit with a laser.

          3. cleaned up a bit with a laser
            I’m sure, but if I decide to do it he’s not the one I’ll choose to do it.
            He is mild-mannered to the point of being ethereal, which works for him as he avoids answering questions. Makes me crazy.

        2. “The joke here in Las Vegas is if you want to see a good doctor, go to LA.”

          The best doctors in fly-over are veterinarians.

          1. veterinarians
            🙂 I have more respect for them. They have to learn several kinds of anatomy, not just one.

        3. In general, their offices aren’t crowded

          I’ve noticed that with my GP. The last time I called for an appointment I was able to see him the same day.

          1. The one I really liked ended up closing his practice due to a vendetta with another LV doctor.

            Reviewing the newspaper stories about the dueling lawsuits, this quote was particularly disgusting: “ ‘I told her she needs chemotherapy — you keep your mouth shut,’ ” he recalls the chemo specialist saying. “ ‘If I tell a patient they need chemotherapy, you don’t say anything. I’ll make my money. And when I’m done with them and they need radiation, you can make your money.’ ”

            My doctor had dared to disagree with the other. the dispute led to an angry phone call from K*****l, who said: “I’m going to teach you a lesson and drive you out of town.” And he did.

          2. “ ‘If I tell a patient they need chemotherapy, you don’t say anything. I’ll make my money. And when I’m done with them and they need radiation, you can make your money.’ ”

            Wow, that’s rich!

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