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Sellers Are Watching A Couple Of Lowball Bids – Or None At All

A report from Mansion Global. “The New York City apartment of the late Broadway producer James M. Nederlander has closed for more than $11 million after selling at auction earlier this year. The sale closed about two weeks ago for $11.044 million, according to Whitney Didier of Douglas Elliman, who represented the buyers. Nederlander bought the 4,500-square-foot apartment in 2006 for $13.47 million, property records show. Nederlander’s estate first listed the apartment for $27.5 million in 2019 and it was most recently asking $16.99 million, according to listing records.”

From The Oregonian. “Not every home for sale is flying off the market at record prices. Interest in downtown Portland’s luxury condos has fallen so much that next-door neighbors are snapping up an adjacent unit to expand their living space. High-rise condominium buildings are no longer beacons to home shoppers who were once willing to pay soaring prices and fees for concierge services, never-ending views and walkability to social and cultural pleasures.”

“Penthouses and luxury condos are valued at less than they were before the coronavirus pandemic shutdown and last year’s civil unrest in the streets, according to experts, including Nick Krautter of City and State Real Estate, who analyzes Portland’s top-tier condo market for investors and commercial clients. While the median sale price for homes across the Portland area has vaulted 10% in the last year, penthouse properties priced or sold for $2 million or more, while only a handful, lost as much as 18% in value, from an adjusted $970 per square foot before March 15, 2020, to $799 on average to the end of last year, found Krautter.”

“In the $2 million and more condo market, six sales closed in the last 12 months (for 10% below list price on average) and seven are on the market, said Krautter. That represents a year’s worth of inventory.”

The Los Altos Town Crier in California. “The 196-unit, high-density housing project at 5150 El Camino Real, approved by the Los Altos City Council in 2019, can move ahead even if the original developer is no longer involved. The 3.8-acre property is currently in receivership due to the ongoing financial struggles of Dutchints Development LLC. The Los Altos-based Dutchints and its managing director Vahe Tashjian face numerous legal challenges alleging mismanagement and misappropriation of investor funds. Dutchints is in default on its $41 million loan on the property, secured in 2018.”

“The approved project calls for 172 condos and 24 townhouses, with 28 of them affordable. Approvals also included plans to convert an adjacent 24,000-square-foot lot at 745 Distel Drive into a park. That property – offered in exchange for paying park in-lieu fees – has gone through foreclosure, according to property records. Absent the park, the developer is on the hook for an estimated $9.5 million in park in-lieu fees.”

“A Santa Clara County Superior Court judge April 28 granted a preliminary injunction preventing Dutchints from selling the 5150 El Camino property until lawsuits are settled. ‘It is abundantly clear that defendant Vahe Tashjian has grossly mismanaged (the 5150 property) despite having raised at least $21 million in investments and private loans, and receiving eight offers to purchase the property,’ attorneys for numerous investors said in April 21 court documents.”

“Plaintiffs fear they are ‘at risk of losing their entire investment,’ according to court documents. Tashjian denied the allegations, blaming the pandemic of the past year for financial troubles, which he vowed to rectify. ‘Defendants … argue that plaintiffs should wait and see whether Mr. Tashjian can somehow negotiate a sale of the property that will make everyone whole,’ the plaintiffs said in court documents. ‘This argument is ludicrous and, frankly, delusional.'”

The Globe and Mail in Canada. “When real estate agent Angela Hogben launched a three-bedroom house onto the Hamilton real estate market with an asking price of $499,900, she braced for an onslaught. ‘I had a ton of showings – I didn’t get a single offer,’ says the agent with Re/Max Escarpment Realty Inc. Ms. Hogben listed the house in April with an attention-grabbing asking price and set an offer date for one week later because that’s the strategy that has successfully sold many properties for huge premiums in the city west of Toronto.”

“In Hamilton, Barrie, Guelph and other Southern Ontario cities, agents who were seeing upwards of 25 offers on some properties and price gains of more than 30 per cent over the past year, are shifting strategies as they adjust to a cooler market.”

“Ms. Hogben calls the market in and around Hamilton ‘spotty’ these days. As each week goes by, more sellers are watching offer night come and go with a couple of lowball bids – or none at all. ‘Agents say, ‘My clients don’t want to compete,’ she explains.”

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  1. Plaintiffs fear they are ‘at risk of losing their entire investment’

    That’s some red hotcakes right there!

    1. Agree. Not even interesting until it gets a 40% haircut.

      I’m hunkered down with much of my potential down payment in an inverse, non-leveraged (1:1) REIT bear fund. The more housing crashes, the more it makes. Yeah I’m down 25% but I keep depositing into it as it lowers. At some point it should be a rocket ship, exactly the time I will be needing it for a purchase.

  2. “When real estate agent Angela Hogben launched a three-bedroom house onto the Hamilton real estate market with an asking price of $499,900, she braced for an onslaught. ‘I had a ton of showings – I didn’t get a single offer,’ says the agent with Re/Max Escarpment Realty Inc.”

    Sounds like they should rename the agency Re/Max Crater Realty Inc.

    1. “As each week goes by, more sellers are watching offer night come and go with a couple of lowball bids – or none at all. ‘Agents say, ‘My clients don’t want to compete,’ she explains.”

      Ladies and gentlemen, let the used home seller Hunger Games begin! And may the odds be ever in your favor.

    2. Paradoxically, buyers who took a pass on 11 Hayes Ave., on offer night did compete for the house – but only after Ms. Hogben bumped up the asking price to $550,000 the following day.

      So the house DID sell? For more?

  3. What’s with Canada , have they gone bonkers? They’ve sealed off most of their Provincial Borders (Similar to our State lines), Yet their housing costs are still way up there…..What keeps them going as a Country ,someones got to work ,seems like ….

    1. It occurred to me today that tyranny and financial bubbles have something in common. The risk of their occurrence is directly related to the number of people who believe “it can’t happen here”.

  4. Can bears really control a market in a state of mania?

    Seems like a sudden bid shrinkage is on the aging bull market. Maybe more monetary Viagra could bring it back up?

    1. The Financial Times
      Markets Briefing Equities
      Global stocks drop as inflation fears rattle investors
      Sharp price rises take shine off equities rally and stoke concerns over central banks’ next moves
      Europe has followed Asia lower following sharp falls on Wall St overnight
      Naomi Rovnick in London and Thomas Hale in Hong Kong
      42 minutes ago

      Equities dropped across Europe and Asia-Pacific and investors bet on Wall Street indices falling for the fourth day in a row as a US inflation scare rippled through global stock markets.

      Europe’s Stoxx 600 index lost 0.9 per cent and the UK’s FTSE 100 fell by 1.6 per cent. Hong Kong’s Hang Seng index closed down 1.8 per cent, while all of Asia’s other main bourses ended Thursday’s session lower.

      Futures contracts that wager on the future direction of the S&P 500 dropped 0.3 per cent after the US blue-chip index fell 2.2 per cent on Wednesday in its worst one-day performance since February. Contracts on the top 100 stocks on the technology-focused Nasdaq Composite fell 0.1 per cent. The Nasdaq ended Wednesday almost 8 per cent below its all-time closing high, achieved on April 27.

      Data released on Wednesday showed US inflation rose 4.2 per cent year on year in April, with prices rising at a more rapid pace than economists had forecast. The S&P 500 hit an all-time high on Friday, fuelled by optimism about a global recovery supported by central banks keeping monetary loose. The Wall Street benchmark has dropped about 4 per cent so far this week.

      “People are running scared because of inflation, and they are worried about higher interest rates,” said Patrick Spencer, vice-chair of equities at Baird.

      This week’s stock market falls, he added, were “healthy, and what happens historically when sentiment gets overly positive”.

      1. Dumb question of the day:

        Would higher U.S. inflation increase or decrease the returns to overseas investors in U.S. assets, other things equal?

        1. Decrease. Since the value of those assets is in dollars, the real value of them is decreasing regardless of what they do nominally. Like paying someone back with Monopoly money

      2. Economy
        Producer prices rose 0.6% in April from the previous month, hotter-than-expected
        Published Thu, May 13 2021 8:31 AM EDT
        Updated 6 Min Ago
        Yun Li

        U.S. producer prices increased more than expected in April in another hotter-than-expected inflation report Thursday.

        The Producer Price Index rose 0.6% last month, according to the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics. The gauge spiked 6.2% for the 12 months ended in April, marking the largest increase since the agency started tracking the data in 2010.

        Economists polled by FactSet were expecting a 0.3% increase in April for the PPI over the previous month. Year over year, the index was forecast to rise by 3.8%, according to FactSet.

        The core PPI, which excludes volatile items like foods, energy and trade services, rose 0.7% in April from the previous month and jumped 4.6% year over year. The increase from a year ago was the biggest jump since 2014 with the department first calculated the data.

        The Producer Prices Index came into focus after Wednesday’s consumer prices report showed hotter-than-expected inflation and triggered a big sell-off in the stock market.

    2. Given that stonks are only a few percentage points off recent record highs, it strikes me as odd that the talking heads are worrying about a bear market. Doesn’t that technically mean a 20% drop in stonk market indexes off their most recent high levels?

      Maybe the talking heads know something we don’t…

  5. Nederlander bought the 4,500-square-foot apartment in 2006 for $13.47 million, property records show. Nederlander’s estate first listed the apartment for $27.5 million in 2019 and it was most recently asking $16.99 million, according to listing records.”

    Weren’t gonna give it away, huh, greedhead?

  6. Are you worried the carbon footprint of your cryptocurrency investments may harm the planet?

    1. May 13, 20214:55 AM PDT
      Technology
      Musk decries bitcoin’s ‘insane’ energy use after Tesla payment U-turn
      Subrat Patnaik and Hyunjoo Jin
      4 minute read
      Representations of virtual currency Bitcoin are seen in front of Tesla logo in this illustration taken, February 9, 2021. REUTERS/Dado Ruvic/File Photo/File Photo

      Tesla Inc (TSLA.O) boss Elon Musk denounced the “insane” amount of energy used to produce bitcoin on Thursday, doubling down on his sudden rejection of the cryptocurrency as a means of payment over environmental concerns.

      Bitcoin fell more than 10% after Musk, one of its most famous backers, tweeted his decision to suspend its use, less than two months after Tesla began accepting it as payment for its electric cars. Other cryptocurrencies, including ethereum, also fell before regaining some ground in Asian trade.

      “Cryptocurrency is a good idea on many levels and we believe it has a promising future, but this cannot come at great cost to the environment,” Musk tweeted on Wednesday.

      1. Love how he threw the Bitcoin fanbois under the bus. How’s that Cult of Elon investment strategy working out for ya, lemmings?

      2. “insane” amount of energy used to produce bitcoin

        This isn’t new information. He’s pumping and dumping. BTC HODLers were not happy on Twitter last night. My previous post with the hashtag they were trying to get trending may not clear moderation.

        1. Oh, the irony. He’s supposedly ditching BTC because it runs on electricity that comes from coal. Teslas run on electricity that comes from coal.

          1. “Energy usage” was a lame excuse. Bitcoin is a worthless digital token with zero intrinsic value. Trading high-value products like cars for scam digital currencies with wildly fluctuating prices (but backed by nothing) is a recipe for ruin.

          2. Elon Musk used Tesla’s acceptance of BTC to pump the coin, make $TSLA’s quarterly numbers and “earn” his $11B bonus.

        2. Every time I watch videos on YouTube I get ads for eToro showing a savvy and dapper looking millennial with an iPhone trading cryptocurrencies. I suspect the whole cryptocurrency phenomenon is an indoctrination program to imprint in peoples’ minds that digital currency is cool and will make you rich so when they end physical currency everyone will accept it. Once everyone is locked into the digital currency system, the hammer will fall on everyone including early adopters of cryptocurrencies whose usefulness as unwitting propagandists for digital monetary enslavement has expired.

          1. A lot of the financial youtoobes (admittedly, many of them goldbugs) say the same thing. Bitcoin is “training” for digital currency and digital wallets. The Fed will give us monthly stimmies, but that money will be trackable, programmable, and perishable.

          2. The Fed will give us monthly stimmies, but that money will be trackable, programmable, and perishable.

            That could all be done with an EBT card.

      3. And what if a customer sells BTC to get dollars and uses the dollars to buy the same Tesla? Did they somehow use LESS electricity?

        Musk is not this stupid. I think it’s another manipulation hiding under a green cloak.

      4. Bloomberg: Binance Faces Probe by U.S. Money-Laundering and Tax Sleuths

        Binance Holdings Ltd. is under investigation by the Justice Department and Internal Revenue Service, ensnaring the world’s biggest cryptocurrency exchange in U.S. efforts to root out illicit activity that’s thrived in the red-hot but mostly unregulated market.

        As part of the inquiry, officials who probe money laundering and tax offenses have sought information from individuals with insight into Binance’s business, according to people with knowledge of the matter who asked not to be named because the probe is confidential. Led by Changpeng Zhao, a charismatic tech executive who relishes promoting tokens on Twitter and in media interviews, Binance has leap-frogged rivals since he co-founded it in 2017.

    2. Is it just me, or is there something patently absurd about using coal fired power plants to generate the electricity needed to produce a fundamentally worthless imaginary currency?

      Certainly we humans could figure out a better reason to generate carbon emissions than to create imaginary wealth.

      1. Mine runs on the power generated by a turbine harnessed to the revolving door between our captured regulatory agencies and the Wall Street investment banks they’re supposed to be overseeing.

      2. Very resourceful! It’s a form of recycling, as no new oil has to be extracted for you to burn those tires.

  7. “Penthouses and luxury condos are valued at less than they were before the coronavirus pandemic shutdown and last year’s civil unrest in the streets, according to experts, including Nick Krautter of City and State Real Estate, who analyzes Portland’s top-tier condo market for investors and commercial clients.

    Last year’s unrest? The Soros scum haven’t gone anywhere, and the Democrat-Bolsheviks and far-left DA with his hug-a-thug enabling of his fellow collectivist Red Guards means there is no rule of law and no citizen security. I’m not a lying realtor like Nick but I can analyze Portland’s top-tier market: it’s circling the drain.

  8. “The approved project calls for 172 condos and 24 townhouses, with 28 of them affordable.

    Sounds like a viable plan. Who wouldn’t want to live cheek-by-jowl with the denizens of “affordable” housing?

  9. Tashjian denied the allegations, blaming the pandemic of the past year for financial troubles, which he vowed to rectify.

    Armenians are some of the most sophisticated and accomplished fraudsters in the state of California.

    1. “Armenians are some of the most sophisticated and accomplished fraudsters in the state of California.”

      pish posh. compared to the Rom? amateurs

      and don’t even get me started (too late) on the massive invasion of rainbow umbrella cart vendors: Saw one operation, based in a duplex on Mariposa St. across from San Juan High School in Citrus Heights, completely trash the premises. then vanish.
      however, the rainbow umbrella carts continue to multiply & thrive thanks to the idiots patronizing them who mistakenly think they are “helping” these cartel-sponsored slaves.

      you cant fix stupid. you really can’t.

  10. ‘I had a ton of showings – I didn’t get a single offer,’ says the agent with Re/Max Escarpment Realty Inc.

    But…but…foot traffic! Can’t you monetize that?

  11. Buying gasoline is for the “little people.”

    Welcome to the Joe Biden stagflationary depression.

    1. They’d rather you fill up on coal electric and then croak in a lithium fire where they can’t even identify your dental records!

  12. Get that VAXX
    The New York Yankees have confirmed seven COVID-19 positives on their coaching and support staff, manager Aaron Boone said before Wednesday night’s 1-0 win at the Tampa Bay Rays.

    The new positives include pitching coach Matt Blake. The Yankees announced Tuesday that third-base coach Phil Nevin and first-base coach Reggie Willits had tested positive for COVID-19.

    Six of the seven people who have tested positive are asymptomatic, Boone said. All seven people who tested positive have been vaccinated for COVID-19.

    1. The tests don’t work. They never did. When your test is designed to detect the common cold, anything is possible.

    2. Oh bugger…the cat is out of the bag that the vax doesn’t protect you from getting COVID-19.

      1. Well now they are having a lottery where you win a million if you just get the vax. You cannot make this shit up anymore. Clown world

          1. I guess you use what works. That should get some people from “the wrong side of the tracks” to show up and get the jab.

          2. They should have given out 10 $100K prizes instead of a single million-dollar prize. Sure, $100K doesn’t buy much bling, but more people would show up if they thought they had 10x the odds of winning.

          3. They should have given out 10 $100K prizes instead of a single million-dollar prize.

            Why not just hand out 10,000 (or however many you could get for $1,000,000) free Air Jordans every week?

            I suspect that the million bucks is more tantalizing.

        1. Considering you can’t sue for any unexpected “side effects” (like, say, death) of these experimental miracles, $1mil for getting vaxxed is an example of big pharma getting off cheap.

          Btw, for my entire life in the most liberal places in the country, everyone has maintained that big pharma is the root of all evil (along with Walmart and Big Oil.) Now suddenly the same people are #TeamPfizer?

          1. big pharma getting off cheap

            The lottery money is coming from existing federal COVID-19 relief funds, not Pharma.

            in the most liberal places in the country, everyone has maintained that big pharma is the root of all evil

            Encinitas is extremely liberal and, IIRC, was one of the most anti-vax cities in San Diego.

      2. Internet Search Seychelles. Everybody is now sick because they got the VAXX.

        1. The Mexican media has been b!tching about the super slow vaxx deployment in their country. And yet, their infection rate is now low and most of the country is in the “green” state.

          1. Once everyone has had COVID-19, the need for vaccines seems doubtful, thanks to natural herd immunity.

        2. When will the CDC give the OK for fetuses to get the vaccine so pregnant mothers can stop spreading Covid when they burp or fart?

          PS

          I can’t get over the name of the real journalist credited with this article.

          CDC OKs Pfizer’s Covid vaccine for use in adolescents, clearing way for shots to begin Thursday

          PUBLISHED WED, MAY 12 20213:10 PM EDTUPDATED WED, MAY 12 20217:08 PM EDT

          Berkeley Lovelace Jr.
          @BERKELEYJR

          https://www.cnbc.com/2021/05/12/pfizer-covid-vaccine-cdc-panel-endorses-for-use-in-kids-12-to-15.html

          1. That would cut into Planned Parenthood’s business and hence donations to the D party.

    3. Did anyone bother to report the cycle threshold of these positive cases? There’s a difference between having virus and having enough virus to be contagious.

      1. I’m working on a large commercial construction site for the first time in several months. Nobody wears masks here. COVID is over, the whole thing was just a virtue signal.

        1. Corona scam emerged toward the end of a project ($140 million) in MD. Not a single mask on the job. Not one. And everyone works on top of each other in this business.

          I’m running a $9 million job in New England right now. 16 guys on site right now and not one mask seen.

          Corona is bullshit.

        2. “Nobody wears masks here.”

          I never stopped being on construction sites and nobody except for the occasional passing CNN consuming engineer or architect ever wore a mask and I still don’t know anyone who died from https://youtu.be/rfh4Mhp-a6U Covid.

      2. Only those believing in asymptomatic transmission and long-haulers need the cycle threshold. Otherwise, asymptomatic equates with not contagious.

      3. Did anyone bother to report the cycle threshold of these positive cases? My sister got + in late Nov. 2020 and was hospitalized for a few days. I got a copy of her complete medical record and the test result said nil about the cycle threshold.

  13. Oh dear….

    China Property Stock’s Sudden Plunge on Spinoff Plan Spooks Bondholders

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-05-13/china-property-stock-sinks-on-spinoff-plan-spooking-bondholders?sref=ibr3A0ff

    Anything freaks out China’s dollar bond market these days, especially when it comes to property firms.

    When Central China Real Estate Ltd. shares resumed trading in the afternoon in Hong Kong, they sank as much as 43%. The trigger was expected — from Thursday, new shareholders would no longer qualify for a piece of a newly spun-off company, Central China Management Co.

  14. ‘It is abundantly clear that defendant Vahe Tashjian has grossly mismanaged (the 5150 property) ”

    5150 !?! uhhhh . .. hmmm

    1. That likely means there’s an adult with disability challenges whose name is on the deed managed by a trust since a 5150 status means you cannot enter into and sign legal contracts within the State of California.

    1. Have you been in Denver recently?

      It’s mask #ClownWorld up here. Masks while driving alone. Masks while walking on the sidewalk.

      Clown millennials wearing clown masks to virtue signal and score magical internet “points” from their clown friends on social media. Denver voted 79.55% for the senile pedophile child groper and hair sniffer, therefore the clowns wear the mask to *OWN* Orange Man Bad voters…

    1. Don’t we fund both sides? Direct arms sale to Israel as well as money to Iran that makes it way to Hamas?

    2. The Gaza Strip is an unnecessary political risk and grave threat that should be annexed by Israel. A one-eyed Israeli General gets the blame for this real estate deal with Egypt following the 1967 war.

    1. The Financial Times
      Opinion Bitcoin
      Elon Musk wakes up to bitcoin’s fossil fuel issues
      A Delphic tweet from the Tesla founder shows no one can be complacent about ESG
      Gillian Tett 2 hours ago

      Elon Musk, founder of Tesla, recently christened himself “technoking”, or king of tech. A better moniker might be “Wizard of Oz”.

      The entrepreneur possesses a startling ability to tug the strings of the crypto world. In February, bitcoin prices leapt when Musk revealed that the company had bought $1.5bn worth of the cryptocurrency. So did the price of dogecoin following similar Delphic tweets.

      But last weekend dogecoin tumbled when Musk admitted on an American comedy show that the asset might be a “hustle”. And now bitcoin has tumbled too after yet another tweet, this time one revealing that Tesla will no longer accept bitcoin for purchases of electric cars. “We are concerned about rapidly increasing use of fossil fuels for bitcoin mining and transactions, especially coal,” Musk said.

      Activists and journalists have, of course, been highlighting this issue for months. Two striking statistics encapsulate the problem.

      First, it seems that two-thirds of bitcoin to date has been mined — created through computing algorithms — in China, using data centres reliant on electricity generated by coal. Indeed, bitcoin’s link with the black stuff is so tight that Alex Lipton, a crypto expert, notes that bitcoin prices move whenever accidents occur in Chinese coal mines.

      Second, the $2tn crypto market has expanded so fast that it is gobbling up vast quantities of energy. Mining bitcoin, which accounts for half of all crypto, currently uses the same amount of energy annually as the Netherlands did in 2019. Scientists warn this threatens the Paris climate goals.

      1. technoking

        Oh, the “techno – king.” At first I thought it was a verb: “techno + toking.” 🤦‍♀️

  15. For those who actually care what the CDC says: It’s Liberation Day! Jab recipients no longer need to where masks . . . with numerous exceptions.

      1. They want to bring back colored people drinking fountains too. Senator Byrd (D-WVA) was all about the white hoods back in the day. It’s a Democrat Party thing.

    1. Honestly I was surprised to see this. Maryland only opened up the vax to everyone six weeks ago. That’s barely enough time for someone to get two Moderna shots and wait two weeks to be “fully vaxed.” Within their own paradigm, there are still too many unvaxxed people out there, even ones who aren’t hesitant. Really, they should have waited a month for more people to get the jab, but maybe they know Americans won’t tolerate another masked Memorial Day.

      1. As I mentioned above, hardly anyone’s been vaccinated in Mexico and the infection rate there is in near free fall, which probably means that most Mexicans already got the virus and didn’t know they did. Their daily rate has dropped from 22,000 to 2,000 and is still dropping, even though only about 15% have been vaccinated.

      2. Either The Science(TM) changed in the last two weeks or the administration needed some good news to change the news cycle.

      1. Per DJT, comparing Biden to Carter isn’t fair to Carter. Carter didn’t create the problems.

      1. So wait, I thought the masks were more effective on the transmitter, not the receiver. But now only the receivers, i.e. the unvaxed, need a mask? Way to go, CDC. 🙄

        Here are the stats from the CDC:
        Population 18+ at least one dose:* 58.9%
        Population 65+ at least one dose: 84%
        Total population at least one dose: 35.8%

        I dunno, maybe they think that’s good enough? Most of the elderly are vaxxed, so the deaths are going to drop. Maybe a lot of the underserved communities aren’t vaxxed but they had COVID by now, which is as good as a vax. Pfizer/Moderna are 95% is effective which means you need fewer vaxed people. We’re coming into summer when we’re all outside soaking up Vitamin D. Maybe it’s time to simply take the masks off and allow one more wave of mild/moderate cases to “vaccinate” everyone else. As long as there isn’t death, just get it over with. (hope they’re really trying to vax the obese people, since they are vulnerable)

        —————-
        *The Fully Vaccinated percentages are much lower.
        However, I’m looking at “at least one dose because” 1) one dose is 75+% protective, and 2) Someone getting the first dose will almost certainly get the second dose and be fully vaccinated soon, i.e. not a refuser.

    1. Its important that my safety matches my values. I want a diverse group of bombs and bombers in our armed forces. In fact they need not have arms at all.

  16. Lumbar down 3 days in a row?

    Did you cut down bunch of trees? Supply chain must be easing just like that, right?

    Jesus…rigged market and rigger opinions….

    1. Jesus…rigged market and rigger opinions….

      Precisely. We’re paying less for dim lumber and ply now than did 10 years ago.

      “The so-called stumpage fee, or what lumber companies pay to land owners for trees, for Louisiana pine sawtimber on March 31 was $22.75 per short ton, according to the latest data from price provider TimberMart-South. That’s the lowest since 2011.”

  17. Again I say that the variant mutant strain theory will be used for the next wave of lock downs while more censorship of dispute to this narrative will occur.

    First, this so called Covid 19 virus was never isolated, and the PCR tests were fake, and Covid deaths were faked.

    Medications that were effective against respiratory diseases were downplayed in favor of the 90 % death rate from ventilators with incentives given to Medical system to go that route.
    The fake videos of Chinese people dying in the street, while the virus never spread to major Chinese Cities was so fake, while it ends up Fauci funded research in the Chinese lab that was the origin of the so called Pandemic.
    Bogus masks and lock downs that made no sense for a disease that affected mostly the very old with co morbidities wasn’t justified, and still isn’t.

    A untested new technology vaccine granted emergency approval under the condition of this medical fraud, launched at the exact timing to rig the 20/20 election,destroy small business and funnel money to the One World Order insurrectionist is obvious.

    They will give you a brief period of open up with reward of no masks for the vaccinated, than it will be the variant strain new emergency that’s based on fake Science, and perhaps a cover for the sickness the vaccines are causing.
    If any of this fake Pandemic was justified they wouldn’t need to censor dispute or viable information, which is going to get worse.
    So, in spite of the little reward that vaccinated people get to be mask less outside, while the non vaccinated are shunned and punished, this won’t last for long because of the need for more lockdown to complete the Great Reset agenda.
    These One World Order perverts that are the insurrectionist of Sovereign Countries need to arrested for these crimes against humanity.
    As long as fake news and false narratives are controlling, you have to reject anything these creeps say.

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