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A report from DS News. “Mortgage rates increased to 3.22%, the highest percentage since May 2020. Agents have said the potential for higher mortgage rates is motivating sellers to act quickly. ‘Sellers want to get their homes on the market ASAP,’ Seattle Redfin Agent Shoshana Godwin said. ‘They’re concerned that if rates rise too much, it could impact their chances of getting good offers since buyers may be worried about overall costs increasing.'”

The Associated Press. “An influx of out-of-state homebuyers and renters pushed up housing prices on the Hawaiian island of Kauai last year, officials said. Kauai County Councilmember Luke Evslin has set his sights on vacant homes and short-term vacation rentals, arguing wealthy people from outside Kauai have ‘parked’ money in local houses to take advantage of low property taxes. He estimated one in eight Kauai homes sits vacant, having been purchased as an investment or second home.”

The Idaho Press. “Longtime Boiseans remember a time when the North End was chock full of affordable rentals. Cathy Steuart Sherman rented several houses in and around the tree-lined neighborhood for years before she and her husband purchased a home on 5th Street in the late 90s. They moved out of the small house in 2005 and decided to rent it out at an affordable rate, joining several other homes and apartments for rent in the few blocks nearby.”

“That’s not so much the case anymore. Slowly, she said many of the rentals she remembers near her property turned over from long-term rentals to short-term vacation rentals listed on sites like AirBnb or VRBO. After looking around the neighborhood, she discovered the boom in short-term rentals where low-income renters used to live.”

“‘Then, it was about that time too I realized in the neighborhood there was an apartment house that flipped all the units in it to an Airbnb,’ she said. ‘…That one I think would have been one of the first ones and later out of curiosity I checked and now there are six within spitting distance of my house.'”

The Sacramento Business Journal in California. “One of the best-known buildings in Downtown Sacramento from the early 2000s real estate boom appears to have financial difficulty, with an ownership group filing for bankruptcy last week. According to the filing in U.S. Bankruptcy Court for the Central District of California, the entity known as 12th & K Partners LLC, which is connected to the Cathedral Building on the northwest corner of 12th and K streets, filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy Thursday, claiming both assets and liabilities in the range of $10 million to $50 million.”

“Bon Clippinger, president of Los Angeles-based Clippinger Investment Properties Inc., is the signatory to the filing, which states the location of principal assets as 1020 12th St. in Sacramento. The phone rang with no answer Friday at Clippinger Investment’s office. The address appears to correspond to both retail space along 12th Street and two floors of apartments above it.”

From NBC News on California. “More tech industry employees, founders and investors who used to shrug off local politics have taken a sudden and fierce interest in San Francisco government. ‘Everyone I know is just mad — deeply, deeply mad,’ said Zach Coelius, a venture capitalist and former startup founder who moved to the Bay Area in 2005. ‘If you go to other major, world-class cities, they don’t have these problems. We can’t seem to build anything. We can’t seem to fix anything. And we can’t seem to have a city that can operate on a basic level.'”

From CTV News in Canada. “A drug and money laundering investigation called Operation Mad Money—which stretched from Toronto to British Columbia to China—has shown links between illegal marijuana sales and Toronto’s booming real estate market, CTV News Toronto has learned.”

“The investigation, led by the Calgary Police Service, is part of an attempt to seize millions in what authorities allege are drug profits that ended up in money service businesses in the Greater Toronto Area, who passed them along to people trying to buy homes. And it could be the tip of the iceberg, says one retired Royal Canadian Mounted Police officer and money laundering expert. In an interview, Garry Clement says Ontario should follow in the footsteps of B.C. and call a public inquiry to assess how big an impact laundered money has in the property market.”

“‘We know that this is going on, we know money is coming into the province. All you do is look at the number of condos that are sitting vacant,’ Clement said.”

The Calgary Herald in Canada. “A new year has delivered another nasty wallop to the value of Calgary’s downtown office towers. New data from the city’s annual reassessment process this week shows office buildings in the core lost another $1.1 billion of their combined value for the new tax year. Since 2015, about 160 office properties located south of the Bow River have seen their collective assessments shrink by more than two-thirds to $8 billion. It amounts to a whopping $17.3-billion decline over seven rocky years.”

“Five office buildings in the area are completely empty. The vacancy rate in the downtown’s west end, home to many older office structures, sat at 50 per cent in the third quarter, according to Avison Young. ‘The problem is we’re not overbuilt; we are under-demolished,’ said Trent Edwards, Canadian president for Brookfield Properties Development.”

From Nasdaq. “Shares of Chinese developer Modern Land plunged nearly 40% to all-time lows on resumption of trade on Monday after it said it has been in talks with noteholders on a restructuring plan for its $1.3 billion of offshore bonds. Modern Land said in a filing on Monday it has received notices from certain noteholders demanding early repayment of their senior notes, after the firm missed payment for its 12.85% notes due Oct 25, 2021.”

“Separately smaller peer Shimao Group Holdings, which defaulted on a trust loan last week, has put on sale all of its real estate projects, including both residential and commercial properties, Caixin reported.”

From Reuters. “Cash-strapped property firm China Evergrande Group has left what has been its headquarters in the city of Shenzhen and relocated to nearby Guangzhou, Chinese media outlet The Paper reported on Monday. Last September, the Shenzhen building was the scene of chaotic protests when investors crowded its lobby to demand repayment of loans and financial products. Last Tuesday protests also began at the Guangzhou offices, with around 100 investors in financial products issued by the company gathering to express their worries about getting their money back. Small crowds of protesters have continued to gather near the site since, 10 protesters told Reuters.”

From Stuff New Zealand. “The chance of snapping up a property bargain in 2022 will be higher than it has been in years, according to the chief executive of a nation-wide mortgage brokerage. Mortgage Lab chief executive Rupert Gough says a combination of new lending rules that he estimates reduced the number of eligible buyers by about 30 per cent, and mounting pressure on investors from rising interest rates and larger tax bills, added up to a greater chance for deals.”

“Rod Schubert, managing director of Rod Schubert Financial Advice, uses the example of an Auckland investor to highlight the point: If they took on a million-dollar mortgage today on an existing property, with mortgage interest no longer deductible from tax, he estimates that investor would end up losing roughly $35,000 a year on that property. Any investor willing to take on that loss would be gambling on capital gains continuing to outstrip the yearly losses, which would be ‘going in with your eyes closed,’ Schubert says.”

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  1. ‘Since 2015, about 160 office properties located south of the Bow River have seen their collective assessments shrink by more than two-thirds to $8 billion’

    Ooo, I bet that’s a lot, even in Kdn pesos.

  2. ‘Cash-strapped property firm China Evergrande Group has left what has been its headquarters in the city of Shenzhen and relocated to nearby Guangzhou…Last Tuesday protests also began at the Guangzhou offices, with around 100 investors in financial products issued by the company gathering to express their worries about getting their money back’

    FB#1: Open the gates!

    FB #2: They’ve left!

  3. ‘If you go to other major, world-class cities, they don’t have these problems’

    It’s not world class Zach, you got human sh$t on yer shoes.

    ‘We can’t seem to build anything. We can’t seem to fix anything. And we can’t seem to have a city that can operate on a basic level’

    I’ve made this point many times. The ‘can’t do’ state. And they pretend we should all be following their lead!

    1. The ‘can’t do’ state.

      Speaking of the can’t do area with a bay, a few years ago a colleague transferred to the Santa Clara campus from Prague. He got a huge raise in the process. After about two years he said he couldn’t stand living there anymore and demanded he be transferred back to Czechia. He got his wish.

      1. Santa Clara campus”

        Problem with tailgaters in Santa Clara meaning strangers follow you in the door after you badge it open and steal stuff. Crazy . Haven’t been to HQ for years but was in Oakland last Summer , not good.

        1. I haven’t been to SCA in years. Don’t know if they still have security guards in the lobbies still, I know they don’t in BRM.

          That said, the stuff worth stealing is in rooms that require a card key for access.

    2. It’s such a shame, as half a century or more ago, San Francisco really was a world class city. At some point, Democratic rule turned it into a sh!thole.

  4. ‘He estimated one in eight Kauai homes sits vacant, having been purchased as an investment or second home’

    ‘example of an Auckland investor to highlight the point: If they took on a million-dollar mortgage today on an existing property, with mortgage interest no longer deductible from tax, he estimates that investor would end up losing roughly $35,000 a year on that property’

    Now that’s some red hotcakes right there. That little bony armed commie is breaking it off in yer a$$.

    1. “That little bony armed commie is breaking it off in yer a$$.”

      How much you wanna bet the LimpWrist wears his sisters thong….

      Snazzy looking charts though. Inventory to the moon and prices falling.

    2. New Zealand, another country trapped behind the Covid Curtain. Maybe someday its people will rise and claim their freedom

      1. I watched a video yesterday (if I see it again I’ll post). The Kazakh uprising is about the CCP virus tyranny. This UK guy put together a lot of videos he got from Russian telegram. And he translated the talking. They burned a lot of peoples houses, even doctors. Robbed all the banks. Rounded up soldiers and put them on trucks. There was even a mean mad max truck! At one point they were clearly chanting ‘no vaccine’. Now they are well armed.

        1. Oh, and he said the last straw was guberment requiring a QR code for the death injection to get money out of the banks.

          And what does the globalist scum media say it’s all about? Propane prices. Lying dogs.

          1. IIRC, the Ruskies launch their rockets from Kazakhstan.

            And since when do people riot and set gooberment buildings on fire over propane prices?

            QR codes to make bank withdrawals. That must be a wet dream for our leftists.

          2. Just wait until they go to 100% digital Fedcoin which is trackable, programmable, and perishable. Sure, you got a vaccine exemption; but we won’t allow you to buy gasoline within 50 miles of your home address. We are giving you a pay raise; but you must spend that extra money in 30 days or it will disappear. You went 1 mile over the speed limit; we automatically just deducted the fine from your account. We see that you’re a single woman living in a three-bedroom house; we are seizing the house for an immigrant family that needs it. We see that you bought two boxes of ammo instead of one; we have just canceled your health insurance. On and on…

          3. Yeah, and you think we’re going to let that happen? We outnumber them vastly and we’re armed to the teeth.

          4. Just wait until they go to 100% digital Fedcoin …

            That is definitely what they would like to do. Notice that they very quietly passed legislation that requires a government controlled kill switch in all new cars starting in 2026.

            1984 is now.

          6. I really don’t see that happening, oxide. I know plenty of people who would just resort to killing politicians.

          7. IIRC, the Ruskies launch their rockets from Kazakhstan.

            That’s what I read in a ZeroHedge article yesterday: Why The Kazakhstan Crisis Is A Much Bigger Deal Than Western Media Is Letting On.

          9. That is definitely what they would like to do. Notice that they very quietly passed legislation that requires a government controlled kill switch in all new cars starting in 2026.

            We’re living in a totalitarian state. If you receive more than $599 through Venmo, Paypal or any other payment system, you will be issued a 1099. The IRS wants their cut. Oh, you don’t have the receipt for those 10 year old clothing items you sold at a loss? So sorry, give us a cut motherfocker.

          10. I know plenty of people who would just resort to killing politicians.

            People would revolt if they tried it all at once. But this will be done slowly and steadily. Getting everyone in the US to have a QR code is a future step and will be hard since we are not Europeans nor Kiwis.

          11. speaking of QR codes, the “free” COVID kits sent home w/students here in San Juan Skool District last Friday are only usable IF you FIRST download an app, (thru the QR code of course), then transmit the results to same app for confirmation of said test.

            BULL EFFIN’ SHITZU to that !!!

            (was going to toss the tattle tale kit into the trash then had decided to give it to a crazy uber-liberal parent & daughter, classmate of my daughter from her school days. this is right up their alley AND since self test kits are always sold out they’ll be in nirvana!! haha )

  5. ‘Skeptics who have long fretted about a speculative bubble in shares of hyper-expensive, unprofitable companies are pointing to this week’s blowup in Rivian Automotive Inc. as the latest sign that the air is leaking out fast.’

    ‘Rivian, the Irvine maker of electric pickup trucks, briefly surpassed Volkswagen AG’s market value after its November initial public offering even before registering any meaningful revenue. As of Friday morning in New York, it’s lost 52% from its peak, wiping out about $75 billion in value.’

    ‘Many technology companies that trade at high multiples of expected sales have endured a similar fate: E-commerce company ContextLogic, data analytics company Palantir Technologies and software maker Appian have plunged 70% to 80% from their highs.’

    ‘What’s more, two-thirds of Nasdaq’s 3,600-plus stocks trade below their average price for the past 200 days, an indicator that signals to chart watchers that the index is in a long-term downtrend.’

    ‘The problem for these high-flyers: Higher rates reduce the present value of future earnings. That’s especially a problem for companies like Rivian, where any profits are off in the distance. And expectations were high.’

    https://www.dailynews.com/2022/01/07/bubble-trouble-for-rivian-irvine-ev-maker-is-latest-high-flyer-to-pop/

      1. Would be interested to see how 2021 looks compared to, say, 1999, but I couldn’t find a chart that went back that far in time.

          2. “You have the best charts, Mr. Banker!”

            Thank you.

            This next chart is my favorite; It clearly demonstrates how fortunate we citizens are to be blessed with a competent overseeing Federal Reserve Board that knows how to properly remove the punch bowl as soon as the party gets started …

            https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/M1SL

          3. OMG – great charts

            In normal times, i would be very scared (and should be) …. But what the f*** will central banks and governments do to bail out the markets.

            No common sense left

        2. From Mr Banker’s M1 chart:

          Summer 2008 $1.4 trillion
          January 2020 $4 trillion
          Current $20 trillion

          And the plan is to unwind the Fed’s balance sheet by when!?

    3. Rivian, the Irvine maker of electric pickup trucks

      Don’t you have to ship product to be a “maker” of something?

      And who in his right mind wants an electric pickup truck? “Sure thing, boss, I’ll go and pickup that load of material as soon as my truck is recharged. There’re only four people in front of me in line for the charging station … oh cr@p … another blackout.

      1. an electric pickup truck

        Ford’s F-150 Lightining is quite popular. Real businesses (i.e., those not dependent on government subsidies) perform extensive market research before launching new products.

        2. But you can’t roll coal in an electric pickup. 🙂

          Are they popular? I’ve never seen one on the road. I’ve seen Teslas (even on my street) and Nissan Leafs, but I can’t say I’ve ever seen an electric F-150.

  6. I came across this the other day:

    ‘Overall, we consider GSMC’s aggregation platform to be comparable to that of peer aggregators and therefore did not apply a separate loss-level adjustment for aggregation quality. In addition to reviewing GSMC’s aggregation quality, we have also reviewed the origination quality of each of the originators which contributed at least approximately 10% of the mortgage loans (by UPB) to the transaction.’

    ‘For these originators, we reviewed their underwriting guidelines, performance history, and quality control and audit processes and procedures (to the extent available, respectively). Approximately 35.2% and 11.0% of the mortgage loans, by UPB as of the cut-off date, were originated by UWM and loanDepot.com, LLC respectively.’

    ‘No other originator or group of affiliated originators originated more than approximately 10% of the mortgage loans in the aggregate. We increased our base case and Aaa loss expectations for certain originators of non-conforming loans where we do not have clear insight into the underwriting practices, quality control and credit risk management (neutral for CrossCountry Mortgage, Guaranteed Rate, loanDepot.com, LLC, NewRez LLC, Caliber Homes and Proper Rate under the old QM guidelines).’

    ‘We did not make an adjustment for GSE-eligible loans, regardless of the originator, since those loans were underwritten in accordance with GSE guidelines. We made an adjustment to our losses for loans originated by UWM primarily due to the fact that underwriting prime jumbo loans mainly through DU is fairly new and no performance history has been provided to Moody’s on these types of loans. More time is needed to assess UWM’s ability to consistently produce high-quality prime jumbo residential mortgage loans under this program. Also, we applied an adjustment for loanDepot loans originated under the new QM rules as more time is needed to fully evaluate this origination program.’

    https://finance.yahoo.com/news/moodys-assigns-provisional-ratings-prime-194205937.html

    ‘where we do not have clear insight into the underwriting practices, quality control and credit risk management’

  7. Skeptics who have long fretted about a speculative bubble in shares of hyper-expensive, unprofitable companies are pointing to this week’s blowup in Rivian Automotive Inc. as the latest sign that the air is leaking out fast.’
    The current situation feels a lot like Early 2000 when the Dot.com started imploding. And Not so much like 2007-2008, at least not yet. Maybe that will be the next shoe.

        1. Used to see lots of fancy cars, e.g., Saab and Volvo in their parking lots each morning. You know the types, scratch your chin at work, create documents that nobody reads and stick your nose in a wine glass at the dinner table. Success!

          1. The first story I ever heard about the housing bubble was from a guy from SLO. This is before it was on my radar. He and his son were telling me how much their houses had gone up in price, and they were buying another one as an investment. This was in 2002. The guy was in his late 60s at the time, and his son probably early 40s.

          2. SLO has become crowded as phuc, well beyond their street’s design capacity. But I’d still like to live in the Edna Valley for the natural scenery and of course the awesome weather!

          4. My best friend growing up was from central CA (RIP). I used to visit him when he was staying with his mom. Memories of blowing down I5 in the late 1980s on a wing and a prayer, fog so thick you couldn’t see where you were going, headed to Cayucos for spring break to stay with a house full of young ladies at the beach. Good times.

        2. I.e. state workers.

          Reminds me of the time I tried to explain to a UCSD professor that he was a state government worker. I gave up trying to convince him at the point when it seemed like his head was going to explode.

  9. Steve’s original post set off a firestorm of comments from virus deniers. He’s revised it to address some of their arguments. Comments from Jonathan SD and Christi also helpful.

    Has the virus been isolated? Yes.
    So why aren’t we doing experiments on animals to determine the safety and efficacy of the COVID vaccines? Answer: Because nobody wants to know the answer.

    “Virus not isolated”: the definition Kaufman, Cowan, etc. use is different than what scientists who publish papers on virus isolation use. This is why there is such disagreement on this question because different people interpret “has been isolated” differently.

    “People insisting that the virus hasn’t been isolated or that they’re computer generated are displaying their ignorance of modern biology. Virus isolation and genomic sequencing is just basic methodology nowadays.”

    1. Because nobody wants to know the answer.

      Now roll up your sleeve. you horrible (insert more adjectives here) person!

    2. That’s not a big issue. I have a lot of unanswered questions I’m not going to let go of.

      Who made that ‘Chinese’ video with the fake ‘death in the streets’ thing? The media has never addressed that nor bother to mention it at all. The fear bombardment was like no other. If we knew the source of that video it could give us some clues.

      1. unanswered questions

        Ancient wisdom is “Judge a tree by its fruit.”

        Who was hurt by the fear and who benefited?

        1. My gut feeling is they released toxins in places that created a respiratory reaction. The rest of the cases of Covid 19 was the regular flu or pneumonia or people with comorbibities dying from respiratory failure , as is common.
          The evidence shows that a certain percentage of people were killed by no treatment who were denied cheap drug treatments for the Dr Fauci protocol that insured death in the ICU.

          The basis of the Pandemic Fraud was the bogus testing , and still is.

          I’m not going to deny that some people got something very extreme in terms of a respiratory attack, but that could be explained by toxins released that had a limited range .

          The obvious play acting of the Chinese to get the Pandemic going with people falling in the streets was so fake .

          So, the invisible enemy , with the fake testing, and possible short range toxins released , with normal respiratory ailments being re-branded Covid 19, could create a pre planned Pandemic.
          Fake news with censorship of dispute to the Medical Fraud was necessary for this scam.Suppression of meds to treat these diseases was necessary for the vaccine solution.

          The deliberate suppression of informed consent on the expiermental fake vaccines, with fraud that they were safe and effective to lure the deceived into vaccine compliance is evident.Deliberate cover up of vaccine deaths and vaccine injury, in which its already has reached unacceptable levels to take this unsafe and not even effective expiermental fake vaccine off the market.
          Outrageous approval of vaccination of children, who were not a risk group for death from Covid.
          FDA, riddled with conflict of interest parties , where they are tied to Big Pharmacy, so no longer a protection agency of the public . Corrupted and captured.

          Ridiculous mask mandate and lockdowns that the evidence shows does nothing to stop Covid.

          Corrupted Governments operating in lockstep to bring on Medical Tyranny for a One World Order take over by Private Party Monopolies/ Money Changers/Elites , Big Pharmacy, etc.
          The evidence shows criminals rigged the 2020 election, to put Puppet Politicians in to advance the agenda of the One World Order Innsurrection.

          The evidence shows that these Entities are trying to destroy small and medium business, bring on lawlessness, destroy current systems , so people can’t return to normal, so they can bring on the New One World Order enslavement, where it would be a total Dictorship by these psychopathic , anti humanity and anti freedom killers.

          Governments captured and corrupted are not going to stop them, so the people will have to stop them, first by not complying to their demands.

          The fraudulent fear mongering narratives are starting to break down, but in California they are running out in droves to get the free Covid test, where 20% are testing positive for whatever version of Covid, when most are perfectly healthy.

          This is round 2 of the fake testing to keep the fake pandemic going, and objective of getting fake vaccines in every arm.
          Even if you in good faith took the vaccine, why would you want to be forced to take booster shot after booster shot, or God knows what else these fraudulent bastard criminals will want to inject. It should be choice, after valid informed consent.

      2. Who made that ‘Chinese’ video with the fake ‘death in the streets’ thing?

        I remember seeing that and thinking “No one drops dead in the street. If you’re that sick, you’re in a bed somewhere”. Then there were the videos of people being sealed in their apartments with acetylene torches. It was illogical, but it made for great fear porn.

        Also, amusing how quickly China went from “it’s the end of the world” to “it’s no big deal, we have this under control”

        1. Speaking of fear porn: the latest from the CDC:

          1. Dr. Walensky Said Deaths May Rise Dramatically Given the Sheer Number of Cases

          2. Dr. Walensky Said it’s the Unvaccinated Who are Filling the Hospitals and Don’t Count on Immunity From a Previous Infection

          3. Dr. Walensky Said Children are Vulnerable and You Have to Protect Them This Way

          No “pivot”, no white flags being waved. Everyone has to be jabbed. Everyone. This bravado makes me wonder if the Supremes have been given their marching orders to rule that mandates are legal.

          1. Everyone has to be jabbed. Everyone.

            As much as you keep saying this, it’s never happening. Hundreds of millions have not been jabbed, and they never will. There’s simply no way they are jabbing me unless men in a black SUV in black coats grab me out of the blue, hold me down, and stick a needle in my arm.

          2. As much as you keep saying this, it’s never happening.

            Consider his perspective. He’s surrounded by Covidians and waiting for SCOTUS to strike a number of mandates effecting his employment/livelihood/career.

          3. As much as you keep saying this, it’s never happening.

            It’s happening in Europe. I agree it will be much harder for it to happen here.

          5. They won’t pivot until… well, let me rephrase. They will never pivot on their own. But here’s what’s going to happen in 4-6 weeks, whether they like it or not:
            1. Most of the public will catch on to the “with COVID/from COVID” discrepancy. Those who don’t will fantasize about having a threesome with AOC and Jen Psaki.
            2. The uptick in hospitalizations from Delta will resolve.
            3. The new hospitalizations from Omicron will be far less, possibly less than flu season.
            4. All the hospital patients “with” Delta or Omicron will test negative and be moved from the COVID wards. Or they will be out of the hospital.
            4. Those who didn’t get shots (i.e. the “unvaccinated”) will have gotten and gotten over Omicron, likely without being tested or hospitalized. No more pandemic of the unvaccinated.
            5. Cases will come way down like they have in South Africa, and will in the UK.
            6. We will come up upon the two-year anniversary of two weeks to flatten the curve. Yeah, there are jokes, but two years is a psychological barrier. Even the shot/”vaxxed” are getting sick of this.
            7. Spring will come.

            At that point they’ll be forced to pivot. I have made a prediction that this will be over by Easter. Cases and hospitalizations nearly over by St. Patrick’s day, and another month before the government finally gives up.

          7. two years is a psychological barrier

            If by some stroke of coincidence, your swami prophecies come to happen, they’re going to need another panic to keep the herd of sheep together until the elections in 10 months.

            I hit my psychological barrier a very long time ago, probably in the first month of this circus.

          8. I was with you until this.

            Yup, the globalists aren’t going to give up. They won’t win, but they won’t give up. Everything will have to come crashing down for this farce to end.

          9. COVID is a great way to stay out of jail on extended release, get free money in the mail, not pay rent and spend more time hanging with da’ homies.

          10. Consider his perspective. He’s surrounded by Covidians and waiting for SCOTUS to strike a number of mandates effecting his employment/livelihood/career.

            I consider a lot of his type of comments fearmongering – “ooooh, look what’s next.” It’s a form of fear, and also a form of acceptance. Like “they’re going to do it, might as well get used to it.” I don’t subscribe to any of this nonsense. I’m having none of it.

          11. “I was with you until this.”

            I understand. But, imagine that it’s, say, March 20. There are so few new cases that even the commiest of counties lift their mask mandates. The only COVID cases in the hospital are the very sick who got COVID back before Valentine’s day. Even if there are new variants, if the new variants can’t overcome the vaccines or the Omicron immunity, there still will be few cases. What are the governments going to do? Continue to impose masks and lockdowns and remote learning? Tell us, “Well, you’ll need a vaccine just in case?” No one will believe them.

            At best, the globalists will try to pivot to climate change again. That’s what they did last summer, between the Alpha and Delta waves.

          12. “I consider a lot of his type of comments fearmongering – “ooooh, look what’s next.” It’s a form of fear, and also a form of acceptance. Like “they’re going to do it, might as well get used to it.” I don’t subscribe to any of this nonsense. I’m having none of it.”

            Precisely… “It’s the aww shucks I’m helpless and there’s nothing I can do about it” routine.

          13. Based on CDC data as of 1/9 it looks like the covid cases (7 day avg) may have peaked. Hard to tell because of the way the weekend and Jan. 1st played with the 7 day average numbers (yes I know weekends were always in the numbers but Jan 1st might have effected the 7 day average.) In 2021 the highest 7 day case average in the CDC data was 1/11 so if we follow essentially the same case path we might be over the top and on the way down or very near the top.

          14. may have peaked

            FWIW, our neighbors north of 49 degrees, are post peak government “case”. Like you said, same as last year.

          15. MWR, I was looking at that data too. I use the Worldometer data, which breaks down cases by country, and in the US by state (and some by county).

            South Africa — clearly past peak, with some bobbles on the way down.
            UK — peaking, but barely. It might only be a shoulder on the way up
            Red States FL, TX — again, peaking but barely. Not sure if it’s a real peak yet.
            Blue states — starting to slow but maybe not at peak. Blue states will dribble out longer because of:
            1. Massive routine testing finding asymptomatic cases and false positives. For example, 90,000 kids in the DC school system are all home testing and uploading results before they can enter the building.
            2. Masks everywhere, which seems to stop the spread, a little bit.
            3. Still some under-the-bed behavior such as remote learning for school, delayed return to offices, or forgoing travel.

          16. Associated Press
            “Health care workers can return to work, even with positive COVID diagnosis”
            Saw this published 11:27 PM 1/10
            I think the Pandemic is now over if you are allowed to work while having the virus.

    3. “People insisting that the virus hasn’t been isolated or that they’re computer generated are displaying their ignorance of modern biology. Virus isolation and genomic sequencing is just basic methodology nowadays.”

      Yes. My ignorance of modern biology leads me to believe that “isolation” means you can separate out only that thing and nothing else. As in, only the virus particle, including the capsid and RNA, but not cells, not extra-viral RNA, just the virion. If there is some semantic debate about this, it tells me that the “experts” are using word games to mask their inability to do this.

      Even that electron micrograph from that NIH article shows other things in the image beside the alleged virus particles. If they’re “isolated”, what’s that other stuff doing there? And the section that includes “Isolation” in the heading only mentions cells.

      As for those sites where you can buy the virus, please enlighten this member of the ignorant unwashed masses — what does “heat-inactivated” virus mean? How does it differ from the regular, active virus at the molecular level? And why do you have to store it at -70 C? Does it fall apart that quickly at higher temperatures? And if so, why in bloody tarnation are we so afraid of it??

      2. The new modern way of computer sequencing to determine a virus, I’m not totally convince of.
        All I know is when I add up all the dots , I’m concluding this was a faked Pandemic that was pre planned , to get a vaccine in every arm, and bring on Medical Tyranny and a One World Order Dictorship.
        The bogus testing is just so red flag , along with testing healthy people to determine cases.

      4. You are purposely conflating “isolate” with “prove that it exists.” It is entirely possibly to prove something exists without separating it in a stable state from everything else. So stop purposely baiting us with the usual aw-shucks-I’m-just-a-country-boy schtick. It’s annoying.

        2. Well the question was whether it had been isolated, not whether it existed. You and other “experts” maintained that it had been isolated, but apparently can’t be bothered to defend that claim. Which naturally raises the question, what else are you claiming that you can’t defend and that may not actually be true?

          1. can’t be bothered

            It’s futile when one side defines it differently and demands proof via an antiquated and inappropriate methodology.

          2. The virus deniers are specifically making the argument that “it hasn’t been isolated; therefore it must not exist.” And LVG is still playing the innocence game. “Who me, I just wanted to know if they isolated it, nothing about denying existence, oh no precious, not at all.”
            🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄

          3. virus deniers are specifically making the argument…

            Not everyone fits neatly into the little category box you built there. Consider:

            The death stats were bogus. You now get with vs from (after two years).

            The PCR test is bogus for individual diagnosis. 40 amps vs recommended 25. CDC says can’t differentiate flu/Covid/common cold.

            Masks we’re using wouldn’t stop a mosquito. Six feet apart is stupid. These are simply “structure” for the naïve.

            Cable news and government have told 1001 lies, large and small. If the narrative is only 5% true, it’s a lie.

          4. RR or Oxide, either of you care to answer any of my specific questions above about your links? Or are you just going to keep blowing smoke about deniers etc? RR, do you read and understand your own links before posting them?

            You could save us all a lot of time if you could actually answer specific questions.

          5. The answer is, I don’t care if the virus has been “isolated” or not. There’s enough proof that it exists that it doesn’t need to be isolated. And there’s no reason to isolate it either.

          6. The answer is, I don’t care if the virus has been “isolated” or not. There’s enough proof that it exists that it doesn’t need to be isolated. And there’s no reason to isolate it either.

            +1

          7. save us all a lot of time

            I’ve engaged in this ridiculous exchange far longer than I should have. I don’t see you providing any support for your position. I’m done with this topic. Believe what you want.

          8. If the narrative is only 5% true, it’s a lie.

            If you can’t isolate the truth at this point does it even exist?!

        4. So oxide,

          So why the new round of testing in California if the Covid Pandemic is over by Easter. The Government has to have some objective in doing this mass testing of mostly healthy people to determine what they call Covid cases.

          I don’t think the Government is going to give up, because they have more objectives to reach.

          1. HW, the governments still haven’t quite grasped that Omicron is actually a GOOD thing. They still think that *any* COVID is bad, and that they need to stop the spread with masking, testing, isolating, and the rest. But in this case, Omicron is actually more of a vaccine than our vaccines are. We should be trying to spread it — at least to healthy people — not prevent it. I’m sure it’s starting to dawn on them, but most aren’t there yet.

          2. And now I’m hoping that Omicron actually is the good thing that some health folks think it is. If it’s not, I’m going to be run out of town on a rail…

          3. So why the new round of testing in California

            To create fear so parents jab their kids before the dead bodies start piling up?

          4. I agree with that. They know that people are starting to question the “case count” metrics when the hospitalizations are so clearly way down. So they know they only have a few weeks left to squeeze in the fear.

  11. Bob Saget, comedian and ‘Full House’ star, dead at 65

    Sandra Gonzalez
    By Sandra Gonzalez, CNN
    Updated 7:21 AM ET, Mon January 10, 2022

    Saget was found dead in a hotel room on Sunday at the Ritz-Carlton Orlando, Grande Lakes, according to a statement from the Orange County Sheriff’s Office.

    “The man was identified as Robert Saget & pronounced deceased on scene. Detectives found no signs of foul play or drug use in this case,” the Sheriff’s statement read.

    The cause of death will be determined by the medical examiner, the Sheriff’s office added.

    Saget was in Florida as part of his comedy tour. According to tour dates pinned to his Twitter account, he performed Saturday night at Ponte Vedra Beach, Florida.

    https://www.cnn.com/2022/01/09/entertainment/bob-saget-death-full-house/index.html

    Alex Stein #99
    @alexstein99

    Bob Saget joking about his booster shot less than a month ago on December 13th 2021….probably just a coincidence

    https://twitter.com/alexstein99/status/1480348468162048006?s=20

    1. Bob Saget joking about his booster shot less than a month ago

      So, it was true.

      And for every “famous” person who keels over from the jab, how many “little people” do the same.

      And the virus fear porn keeps getting cranked up. They keep repeating the lie that it’s healthy, unjabbed people who wind up in the hospital, when there is ample proxy data that shows that to be untrue.

      So get the jab before it’s too late!

      1. it’s healthy, unjabbed people who wind up in the hospital

        85% of the people in the Finger Lakes Hospital don’t even test positive. It’s not just a great lie, it has a huge hole in it.

      2. It’s not about a virus, it’s about sickeningly wealthy billionaires playing social engineering games with the entire globe. Ever wonder why Bill Gates, doctor of nothing, is on every media program espousing what needs to happen? These people have captured the system.

        1. Ever wonder why Bill Gates, doctor of nothing, is on every media program espousing what needs to happen

          Those who have the gold make the rules.

        3. “Ever wonder why Bill Gates, doctor of nothing, is on every media program espousing what needs to happen?”

          Conflict of Interest? Bill Gates Gave $319 Million to Major Media Outlets, Documents Reveal

          By Alan Macleod
          11/17/21

          MintPress can reveal that the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation (BMGF) has made over $300 million worth of donations to fund media projects.

          Recipients of this cash include many of America’s most important news outlets, including CNN, NBC, NPR, PBS and The Atlantic.

          https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/bill-melinda-gates-foundation-media-objectively/

  12. As to business in California: I drive down “Hiway9”. Once a week in Cupertino to babysit my granddaughter. The prior main Apple building sits at my exit. The corridor from the exit all the way to Saratoga used to be packed with Apple sub buildings and other businesses. Last Friday I saw so many for lease signs. At least 30-40 in that approximately 5 mile corridor. These are not buildings where Apple has moved stuff to their new big headquarters on Wolfe Rd. These are buildings where the businesses have closed or moved. Huge exodus since Christmas. I guess many leases were up January 1? Even the former Seagate building is empty. If this is a harbinger of things to come this is very scary. I grew up in this area and have been there for a long time. Never seen so many empty for lease buildings in what was once a prime area.

    1. Never seen so many empty for lease buildings in what was once a prime area.

      Keep in mind that neither Apple nor Seagate (nor anyone else) actually makes stuff in the Bay Area. That’s all done in Asia. Their Bay Aryan employees can work from home, so why lease office space?

    2. It is no exaggeration to say that the majority of people I know are at least thinking about leaving California, if not actively planning to do so.

      1. They’re not leaving because of political ideologies, they’re leaving because of high housing costs. Then they infect – infest – other areas with their brain-wasting, toxic filth.

        1. The ones I know (myself included) could easily afford to stay here. The ones I know are conservatives (believe it or not, in a state of 40 million people there are probably 15 million real conservatives).
          I know it’s popular to blame Californians for everything that is wrong with every other state, but IMO it’s what naturally happens when cities get to a certain size. They all turn democrat eventually.

        2. But Newsome wants to give ALL illegal aliens free health care in his next budget. Thousands of homeless line the city streets of CA and illegals get free health care how great is that ?

          Governor Newsom’s budget proposal includes universal healthcare for all illegal immigrants –

          1. ‘Governor Newsom’s budget proposal includes universal healthcare for all illegal immigrants –’

            How is that going to work out?

          2. How is that going to work out?

            Their plan to tax everyone who flees the former golden state for 10 years hasn’t gone anywhere, though I suppose it’s still a threat. Without that money it will be interesting to see how Gruesome will be able to keep this and other promises.

            You can cheat at the ballot box, but when you run out of money, you’re broke. The capital gains windfall won’t last forever.

    3. “Never seen so many empty for lease buildings in what was once a prime area.”

      Same story in N. San Jose between 1st and Zanker Rd, and 237 down to Montague Expy. It’s like a ghost town!

    1. “Durst had battled a number of health problems during his trial, which was already delayed more than a year due to the coronavirus pandemic, and his lawyers repeatedly argued he was too sick to stand for the proceedings in the first place.”

  14. as most effective way to increase the jab percentage is to threaten or make it mandatory for your employed relative to keep their job.

    like the Man In The High Castle, he was pretty cocky . . .
    until imprisoned w/his wife, then her health took a nose dive.
    he caved & caved hard to have her medically treated.

    1. Then the wife must have had long legs, a wide thigh gap, and sufficient remaining shelf life. Or else he would have just let her die and picked up a new one. At least, that’s how the HBB males tell it.

      2. You sound so bitter.

        My lady is only six months younger than I am, and she owns over ten pairs of skis. We don’t live together, and have no plans to ever live together.

        1. “My lady is only six months younger than I am…”

          Back when I was 21 my wife was 13 yrs old…

          …but I didn’t know her yet. 🙂

        1. mgtow

          I didn’t know what that was until this blog. And yes, sometimes it does sound that way.

          4. I know that one but don’t know who “the man in the high castle” is ? I thought it was a TV show about a alternate future ?

          5. man in the high castle

            I don’t know that one either. As far as MGTOW, they consider women highly fungible.

        1. I’ve heard that before. I’m not single because I’m a bitch. It was the men that turned me into one.

          1. It was the men that turned me into one.

            I suppose it was the women in my life that turned me into a really nice guy, starting with my mom.

            Or, I made choices.

    2. as most effective way to increase the jab percentage is to threaten or make it mandatory for your employed relative to keep their job.

      The very moment somebody sees their employer tip their hand on a vax mandate, they should make arrangements for a new employer.

      1. I think Aqius meant mandatory at a national level (OSHA, Federal Contractor, etc. mandates) as opposed to your employer mandating it.

        Of course, depending on the industry, you might not have many options as for “other employers”. Say you’re an airline pilot. IIRC, the big 4 (Delta, American, United and Southwest) all have in house mandates, as do many of the smaller airlines. And if you were to quit and take a job with a smaller carrier (like say Spirit or Frontier) you would have to take a huge pay cut, assuming you could get hired. I knew a guy who was furloughed from DHL some years ago. He told me he could fly for Frontier for about 30% of his old pay. So he sat on his butt for over a year, until he was recalled by DHL.

    1. Sounds like the rantings of a madman or conman:

      “While this patent is clearly illegal under 35 U.S.C. §101, not only did the CDC insist on its granting over non-final and final rejections, but they also continued to pay maintenance fees on the patent after the 2013 Supreme Court decision confirmed that it was illegal.”

      1. conman

        Never mind that issued patents are presumed valid until proven invalid and/or unenforceable in a court of law. Illegal?!

        Applying 2013 case law to a 2003 filing.

        “no research in the United States could be conducted without permission or infringement” Ignoring the quid pro quo of patent law: disclosure so others can advance in exchange for period of market exclusivity. Ignoring common law and statutory research exemptions.

          1. Every once in a while I’ll see an ad aimed at inventors to get their idea patented, but I think it’s scam to steal ideas.

          2. Patents are expensive to obtain/maintain and enforce. If you don’t do the latter, it’s not worth doing the former.

          3. Patents are expensive to obtain/maintain and enforce.

            I have a friend who invented a gadget he called the Entry Alert, which was a motion sensor you hung from a door knob. He was awarded a patent for it. He owned a small company, about 200 employees ( what we today would call a Tech Firm) and he bet the company on the Entry Alert and had tens of thousands manufactured. They sold well at first, but soon Taiwanese knock offs appeared. He tried to sue, but found that the companies that sold them vanished without a trace. They of course were able to undercut him and he lost everything. He had to file for bankruptcy and lost his business.

  16. I haven’t heard much from obama…. where’s he been? He’s been quite for a while now….. say about 2 years.

    1. Honest answer — I think he’s lazing around around the oceanfront, throwing the occasional party for 600 people and waiting for global warming to wash away his manse. I don’t buy it when people say Obama is the one behind the decisions Biden is making. I think it’s Nancy, Chuck, and Peppermint Patty, with assists from Zuck and Beze.

      1. Biden was running around with Obama where they went to be where children were being injected with the jab , about a month ago. It was on the news.
        It grossed me out to tell you the truth.
        So yes , I think Obama is right there in the thick of it.

      2. “Honest answer — I think he’s lazing around…”

        Lefty is keeping busy doing the fullback’s chores, or else!

    1. “I’m calling on Congress to support families with a $2,000 payment for adults and a $1,000 payment for kids immediately, and continuing regular checks for the duration of the crisis.”

      This should help the tech stocks and crypto mania bubbles. Why not?

    3. This has been around for a while. Some socialist Dem wanted a UBI to be $2000/month per person, including three children. Even worse, this UBI was going to have some kind of cutoff at ~$100K income. That is, if you worked for a couple college degrees and 10-15 years experience and still work every day, you get $120K. If you’re a deadbeat sitting on your @$$ with three rugrats, you can make the same $120K. That was around summer 2020. Luckily, it seems like that’s going to go nowhere. If it does, then Manchin will have to save us again.

    4. This petition has been making the rounds since the scamdemic began. These chumps are going to learn, the hard way, that long term free money is only for the billionaires. Yeah, you guys got a few checks and an extra few hundred a week in unemployment. That’s over and not coming back. UBI? Cue maniacal laughter. Not happening. You served your purpose, now go flip burgers.

  18. “Seattle Seahawks backup quarterback Geno Smith has been arrested on suspicion of driving under the influence following the team’s season-ending victory in Arizona.”

    Not as much fun as the fall of Troy!

    1. The National Felons League.

      Will Smith be prosecuted? Or will he just get a slap on the wrist? Maybe a few hundred dollar fine, so he can be there on the grid iron for the team!

  19. It just get weirder and weirder.
    What do you make of this.
    Dr. Robert Malone was just on Steven Bannon War Room.
    Summary of what he said is that a viral outbreak is spreading across China, that they are hiding. Its reportedly a “Ebola Like Hemorrhage fever virus. ”

    ussanews.com/dr-robert-malone-warns

    2. Dr. Robert Malone was just on Steven Bannon War Room

      Apologies in advance for The Charlie Kirk Show link (5m38s).

    3. Dr. Robert Malone Warns Of ‘Ebola-Like Hemorrhagic Fever’ Super Virus In China Caused By Mutations Due To Mass Vaccination

      by Andrew White | National File
      January 10th 2022, 5:33 pm

      Dr. Malone explained that “vaccinating into a pandemic will drive the development of escape mutants that are resistant to vaccination,” adding that the Chinese Communist Party’s (CCP) mass vaccination campaign “has mirrored that of the western world, and has resulted in a perfect storm of environment for developing a super virus.”

      “They are using the language that this is a hemorrhagic fever virus. If that’s the case, then it would be very odd that this is something that would be caused by a coronavirus. That terminology is usually used for viruses in the family of Marburg and Ebola,” he said.

      “So, this is something that many people have feared, is the development of a rapidly spreading Ebola-like hemorrhagic fever virus. But we have not knowledge of whether that is going on here or not,” Dr. Malone continued.

      https://www.infowars.com/posts/dr-robert-malone-warns-of-ebola-like-hemorrhagic-fever-super-virus-in-china-caused-by-mutations-due-to-mass-vaccination/

        1. He seems to grin a lot in these videos. I guess he’s thinking about all the people who are going to die from the jab.

    5. Dr. Robert Malone was just on Steven Bannon War Room.
      Summary of what he said is that a viral outbreak is spreading across China, that they are hiding. Its reportedly a “Ebola Like Hemorrhage fever virus. ”

      This made me laugh out loud. I know that’s not the appropriate response, but it’s befitting when you think about it. I mean, they made such a mountain out of a mole hill with COVID that a real Reaper virus would be poetic justice at this point. Kill all those old globalist focks dead.

      1. My first impression is that the CCP is lying and it’s round two of fear on a more scary virus. How do you confirm anything from China anyway.

        1. Quite likely. Of course, there will be all new jabs for the new virus, with the lemmings not only lining up, but screaming for the next round of mRNA jabs. Of course, like the old ones, they too won’t work.

  22. I didn’t read this all and it wouldn’t have matter as I’m not well informed on this line of science. But this is how the CDC isolated the Covid-19 virus:
    https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/26/6/20-0516_article

    While I don’t know much about virology and isolating viruses, I did work for a lab that isolated malignant tumor cells and developed a PCR test for the detection of tumor cells in the bone marrow and blood of cancer patients. This is commonly called MRD (Minimum Residual Disease) testing. Identifying tumor cells is extremely difficult and, I think, more challenging than identifying viruses. But I could be wrong about that. This kind of thing is done all the time these days, but it’s impossible to cover this topic on a blog.

    Let’s just say I have no doubt that Covid-19 is real, it’s not a very difficult task to reveal its existence.

    1. “Let’s just say I have no doubt that Covid-19 is real, it’s not a very difficult task to reveal its existence.”

      Evidently the Covid-19 survival rate, especially for healthy people without comorbidities is very difficult to reveal.

      See below

  23. A Chinese developer previously considered financially sound is embarking on a fire sale of assets as the contagion of bad debts built up within China’s bloated housing sector continues to spread.

    Shimao Group Holdings, which is in the top dozen Chinese property companies, was plunged into crisis after it said it defaulted a trust loan last week after missing a 645m yuan ($101m) payment that it guaranteed.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/jan/11/chinese-developer-shimao-plans-fire-sale-after-downgrade-and-missed-payment

  24. Professor: COVID Survival Rate For Under 20s is 99.9987%

    by Paul Joseph Watson
    January 10th 2022, 6:07 pm

    “From analysis of 25 seroprevalence surveys across 14 countries, Prof. Ioannidis and his colleague found the IFR varied from 0.0013% in the under-20s (around one in 100,000) to 0.65% in those in their 60s,” writes Will Jones.

    For those above 70 not in a care home it was 2.9%, rising to 4.9% for all over-70s. This means that even for the elderly, more than 95% of those infected survive – 97.1% when considering those not in a care home. For younger people the mortality risk is orders of magnitude less, with 99.9987% of under-20s surviving a bout of the virus. These survival rates include people with underlying health conditions, so for the healthy the rates will be higher again (and the fatality rates lower).”

    The authors of the study concluded that the data reflects the reality that the infection fatality rate of COVID is substantially lower than previously reported estimates.

    https://www.infowars.com/posts/professor-covid-survival-rate-for-under-20s-is-99-9987/

  25. HONG KONG, Jan 11 (Reuters) – Debt-laden property developer Guangzhou R&F Properties (2777.HK) said it would use $104 million to pay for a tender offer and fees to offshore bondholders deemed to have consented to an extension in maturity of a $725-million bond due on Thursday.

    The amount, while far less than the $300 million the firm had expected, will still help it avert default, as Chinese developers battle an unprecedented liquidity squeeze caused by years of regulatory curbs on borrowing that brought several offshore debt defaults and credit downgrades.

    https://www.reuters.com/markets/rates-bonds/chinas-shimao-says-it-has-no-deal-sell-shanghai-plaza-shares-slump-2022-01-11/

  27. Is the new China scary virus rumor to influence High Court proceedings on mandates?

    Is the new scary virus a set up to rig the election coming up?
    Are we going to see new footage of of the Chinese dropping in the streets?

    Obviously the Covid 19 narratives are breaking down, and its time for a new scare. The timing of this is pretty suspicious.
    Bill Gates comments are suspicious where he acts like a worse virus is coming.
    This when people were on the verge of wanting to put the Covid Saga to rest and return to normal.

    1. Obviously the Covid 19 narratives are breaking down, and its time for a new scare.

      That what it sounds like to me. For now the ChiComs are being very hush hush about this, so maybe it’s something western gooberments are making up to scare the lemmings back into compliance.

          1. Like many things I inherited from my mother I don’t know exactly where it is at this moment. I’m waiting for a home purchase to unpack a lot of things.

        2. On one of her trips to Borneo, my mother held/comforted/cared for a young orangutan bleeding out with Eloba-like symptoms. Prior to that trip, we agreed that should she die abroad she would be buried abroad according to local custom without me.

    3. I remember when the scamdemic began, a meat packing plant in Greeley had an outbreak and some old, immigrant employee died. The local media made sure we all knew what had happened and that the end of the world was near. I remember people talking in hushed tones about the “Greeley plant death”. They were very scared. But, as Ben often pointed out, there were no “bring out yer dead” trucks, so it seemed fishy. Then China declared victory over Covid, though they never did stop wearing masks; but their lockdowns ended. Meanwhile, western leadership kept insisting that it was the end of the world, and they still are.

      1. Ok, another thing that is bugging me is that Dr Malone is a very careful man, so what’s his source for a Ebola like virus spreading in China.
        Is he being fed A bunch of BS to discredit him, or what.

        1. Is he being fed A bunch of BS to discredit him, or what.

          If that were to be the case, I would expect the MSM to be setting him up for the fall, plastering his warning everywhere. Then when it doesn’t happen, they could say: “See, we told you he was a crank.” But I’m not seeing any news about him on the MSM.

        2. Ebola like virus spreading in China

          “We have no knowledge of whether or not that’s going on here or not.” I provided the link to Dr. Malone’s interview with Steve Bannon above.

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